Saudi Arabia have been a disaster so far in World Cup qualifiers. Now with the departure of Mancini and arrival of Herve Renard can Saudi Arabia rectify there dreadful campaign and qualify for the World Cup.
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I didn't think he would come back but Saudi Arabia will be a favourite to qualify automatically
The white collar shirt drip king returns 👊🏿💥
Renard is our best manager and I am so glad he returned. Unfortunately, the situation also changed and it isn’t the same as the 2022 WCQ anymore. Defeat to Japan at home and Australia changing their coach already meant that we can no longer play the same thing we knew. Renard has one issue, which is very slow to adapt to new circumstances, a reason why his tenure tends to be short lived. Morocco and Zambia are best examples. And I am afraid.
I don't understand why did Saudi Arabia rehire Renard. He is, no doubt, a very good coach, but he seems to be a manager for a season only and not for the next season. We, the Moroccans, understood this pain under Renard very well: he guided us to our historic 2018 World Cup and we performed so well (but so unlucky), only for our team to have a dreadful AFCON in 2019 by losing to Benin, our team was dull of ideas in this AFCON and we topped the group table because all three opponents we faced (Ivory Coast, Namibia and South Africa) had already been the shadows of themselves or too weak, rather than our exploits.
If Saudi Arabia has hired Renard for this situation, don't expect everything will go smooth again. His successful time between 2019-22 was long gone and Saudi Arabia will have a far, far more difficult run. The damage Mancini left is, no doubt, very big, but Renard's familiarity would also mean their foes will be more prepared to neutralise Renard's tactics. As an influencer, Renard is among the best; but as a tactician, Herve Renard is not a good one. He is not the type of coach who is quick at making immediate change after earlier successes. We know that.
Italian southgate –
what if herve renard is a fraud
Renard is not a magician. Saudis need more talent.
The great one in international football has returned to the Saudi Kingdom.
5:47 thats just an excuse made by mancini to try and defend his disastrous results, the number of foreign players is the same for the previous period of renard and we had great results!
This is good news ! Now Saudi Arabia can top the group , I hope they beat Japan and Jack will be sad 🙂
Seems like after reading several comments, I made a quick research about Herve Renard and I found one thing that's very notable. Renard is a capable coach, but his reigns with many teams are often short-lived. So why does Renard, a capable coach, not have long enough terms with respective national teams he worked?
Zambia's malaise post-2012 AFCON answers something about this man. After winning the AFCON, Zambia slowly demised on its own and their 2014 WCQ was surprisingly bad (Renard took charge for the whole failed campaign). Morocco, after their 2018 World Cup high, suffered a major blow in 2019 AFCON. I don't count much of Ivory Coast because he quickly departed after winning the AFCON so his impact is shorter. Even the French women's national team also failed to sustain success with Renard in charge, their Olympics catastrophe at home despite impressive World Cup and Nations League forms said something.
Given this prospect, I feel that people who are genuinely thinking that Renard will save Saudi Arabia should not celebrate his return. It seems like Renard's successes owning more to the role Renard is playing: an influencer, or a motivator, rather than a capable tactician. Renard appears to be a genius in term of motivating his teams, but he is a poor tactician and not great at reading the game. Modern football demands managers to be good in both motivation, tactical set-up and strategic management; yet Renard lacks both the tactical and strategic acumens, a reason why he can't maintain earlier successes.
Applying the 2022 WCQ logic to claim Renard will guide Saudi Arabia to qualify for 2026 is a massive misjudgement given Renard's massive imbalance in his coaching philosophy. Renard's total lack of tactical and strategic acumen needed means that if his opponent is a psychological expert, they will easily neutralise Renard's team. Saudi Arabia's defeats to Poland and Mexico in 2022 World Cup are the exact examples of Renard's own faltering; his rivals, Michniewicz and Tata Martino, are experts in psychological warfare and also nuanced tacticians who easily neutered Saudi Arabia's motivational playing style.
Japan's strength has undergone massive upgrades since the 2022 WC, whereas Australia appears to be back on track under a far more nuanced and hard to predict Tony Popovic. Not to mention Bahrain, China and Indonesia are also chasing. Renard will still guide Saudi Arabia to qualify but the mess they currently have won't make their qualification smooth this time around. Even the possibility of Saudi Arabia going to the fourth round is impossible to ignore. Look at Qatar's current situation, they are Asian Cup champions for eight years now, yet their WCQ is a catastrophe and Qatar is edging closer to total collapse rather than qualifying.
Short term I expect Saudi Arabia to perform better under Renard.
But Renard is no magician and can't be the remedy to problems in Saudi football.
Mancini didn’t call the captain of the national team before Asian cup and pretty much call him a traitor and also other players
So I didn’t think the players will give anything for him
And talk about his Italy success and disaster just months apart 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I guess the Saudis really believe that because they beat Argentina, they have to be considered the world's strongest. But football is a collective sport, not a show for individual like basketball or baseball. They probably have not learnt out that they have never beaten Mexico, a team that is far behind to Argentina in term of quality. The most recent attempt by the Saudis to prove their superiority over the Mexicans was in the Maurice Revello event in France and still a weakened Mexico beat them 3-2. You just need to ask a simple question: why are Saudi players suddenly no longer scared of Argentina, yet so scared to play against Mexico? You can understand their problems.
A head coach like Renard can steer them to new, greater high, but as it stands, he seems to be a manager with short-lived successes. And that's when the problem came: the Saudis function hardly as a cohort, but more like a gang of disorganised yet talented individuals. Mancini's problems with the Saudis came quickly when some Saudi players revolted before the Asian Cup in Qatar, and that's where the core issue of Saudi Arabia lies. Renard helped concealing this problem, but not solving it.
Japanese players are far inferior in term of skills to South Korean and Saudi players, and even a Thai or a Burmese player can produce better playing skills than a Japanese. So why is Japan better than them now? You bet.
Renard is a master motivational speaker. But he lacks tactics
Herve renard is here to the rescue. Good to see hes back
The Saudis really think Renard, whose successes are often followed by inconsistency, will help them to qualify. They are either fanatical, stupid, or being overconfident.
Saudi needs Talent 😂😂