Hello everyone and welcome back to American Ultras Talk! Today we analyzed the USMNT’s embarrassing 2-0 loss to Mexico in a friendly, giving our thoughts on the players, tactics, and game overall. Let us know in the comments what takeaways you have from that disaster and if you want to see a video recapping the camp as a whole. Make sure to like and subscribe if you enjoy the content and thanks for watching!

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0:00 Intro
0:22 Initial Thoughts
2:01 Matt Turner
3:23 Joe Scally
4:53 Miles Robinson
6:08 Tim Ream
7:50 Antonee Robinson
9:10 Aidan Morris
11:47 Gianluca Busio
13:54 Yunus Musah
15:57 Brenden Aaronson
18:06 Malik Tillman
20:29 Josh Sargent
22:40 Kristoffer Lund/Alejandro Zendejas
25:39 Brandon Vazquez/Haji Wright/Tanner Tessmann
28:26 Auston Trusty
29:09 Mauricio Pochettino
34:26 Outro

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29 Comments

  1. Brandon Vazquez had some bright spots;outside Busio had a few shimmers; winning that single throw in after his drive , and Scallys attempts at making something happen by driving diagonally across the field.

    Aaronson might as well not be on the field.

    Paxten is SO clear.

    Musah was literally MIA

    Sargent had zero service.

    We played long balls with no real midfield presence to win the second header.

    That's why I still appreciate McKennie as fat as he is. He will win headers.

    Tessman coming on and stability was instantly realized in the midfield despite having a guy like Morris pairing up with him.

    A good player brings other players up to his level.

    And Tessman and Haji Wright were an example of that.

    I wish that Haji was sent out to the wing and not the striker position imo.

  2. I agree with you, Poch didn’t care enough to do a good job, I wonder what he was doing this whole time he has been hired and didn’t have a camp.

  3. Gregg’s handprint is still all over this squad and that is so clear to see because the only ones to play well were Busio, Vazquez, Tessmann and Zendejas, guys that hardly ever got a look under Gregg.

  4. What’s really frustrating about tillman besides all you mentioned is he has some really good moments that show what he can do like keep possession of the ball when there’s four on him

  5. Couldn't watch the game as I didn't have any of the streaming channels. But in watching the reactions, I'm actually happy our fans are so mad about this result. If GGG had suffered this loss the shill pundits would have covered for him and the fans would have just shrugged in resignation. The fact that we all (fans and media shills) are angry and demanding more means we're getting more serious as a footballing nation. Let Mexico celebrate – they had all their best players, and we had 2nd and 3rd stringers, and they're going to think they've changed the dynamic in the rivalry. It will come crashing down when all of our best players are back and Poch has a chance to install his tactics. Also, agree that Musah and Sargent and Aaronson don't need to be included in any further selections.

  6. Tessman & Busio PLAYED TOGETHER in Italy 🇼đŸ‡č, but Poch takes out Busion & keeps Morris on to play alongside Tess?!?! Poch is WAY better than GGG, but i think he needs more time to analyze this team.

  7. My TV almost didn't make it from all things I was throwing at it. This game was very sad. Our Euro guys were getting slapped by Liga MX guys.
    Actually, the only two guys that showed some fight were our Liga MX guys; too bad they don't have much skill.
    Tillman was the biggest disappointment. Yes, he was being played out of position most of the game, but man, sis he look disinterested. Maybe the intensity was too much for him. It was clearly too much for most of our players. Looked like Mexico was playing with 12 on the field. They were always in correct positions.

  8. If our A roster gave that kind of performance, I would be more concerned. Really just showing we don’t have as much depth as we would hope.

  9. My takeaway from the game: Poor management! Why are we playing out of the back when Mexico is pressing us so high. The last few games against Mexico, we played very direct and were able to get in behind their backline. I don't buy in to this narrative that this one was all on the players when they (specifically Morris and Aaronson) are being asked to do things they aren't good at (Morris playing out of the back under pressure, Aaronson being our main creator in the middle for the first half). Tactics were all wrong but I'll give poch the benefit of the doubt since it was his first camp

  10. The game disappointed me, but cognitively I don't see it as a big negative. There's the emotional sting of looking bad against Mexico. It doesn't really have that much to say, though. The most I can say is that the US adapted poorly to the field conditions. But they were playing in a friendly with inexperienced players under a new coach. It's hard for me to justify reading anything into it. What was the goal of the game and what is the long term goal of the team? Well the long term goal of the team is to perform well at the World Cup. The goal of the game is to introduce the players to the coach and the coach to the players and build a foundation for success at the World Cup. Pochettino indicated that by allowing the players to leave camp. If the goal of the game was to secure a friendly victory against Mexico he never would have let Pulisic go. But he knows taking a risk with Pulisic is not the right thing to do. Of course any time you play you want to see everyone fighting for a win. I don't believe the players lacked fight, however. The US will never play on any field like that at the World Cup. Brandon Vazquez is likely a palpably superior player to Sargent on a field like that. But so what? OK, maybe that challenge won't come up for the World Cup but other challenges surely will and the team need to demonstrate the ability to rise to challenges. That's certainly true and, besides being beaten by Mexico, that is certainly a source for disappointment. But stepping back for a moment and analyzing the situation, we played two 22 year olds at the base of the midfield with combined 20 caps with the senior team who are firstly adjusting to national team soccer and secondarily to a new coach. Expecting them to adapt well to terrible field conditions under those circumstances is not realistic. Hoping, sure, but expecting, no.

    There were again mistakes at the back that this time led to goals. Miles Robinson's kick. I don't know what else to call it other than a kick. It wasn't a pass, it wasn't a clearance. It was just a ball kicked in a seemingly indiscriminate direction and distance, all the while he could have rolled it to Turner instead. Tim Ream took a bad touch after winning the ball, perhaps influenced by the field, but he showed an utter lack of urgency afterwards and instead of rushing to get to the ball he picked his head up and looked around for the best outlet. But those moments that led to Mexico's goals do not define the game on their own. To me what defines it was the lack of players in position to lead the US out of tough conditions in a roughly officiated game against an experienced and motivated Mexico side in front of a hostile crowd. Who are the players we would want to lead us in such a situation? I'd argue Tyler Adams, Weston Mckennie, and Christian Pulisic, none of whom were there. As I mentioned, I don't think Busio or Morris should be expected to do it under the situation they currently are in. Who then, Tillman? Musah? Those are two talented players but both are dealing with issues directly affecting that very ability. Sargent is not playing in the right position to be able to do it. There was only one player to really try to rely on. Brenden Aaronson. He put in complete effort but he came up short on quality in key moments. But just consider the team. Miles Robinson, not very good. Scally, 21 years old 15 caps. Busio 22 years old 14 caps, Morris 22 years old 6 caps, Tillman 22 years old 12 caps, Musah yes he has a lot of caps at 39 but still only 21 years old and part of his issue is he's not mr. reliable. he's very much a player who shows his age not a player who plays beyond his years, despite his number of caps, Tessman 22 years old 3 caps, Lund 22 years old 4 caps, Vazquez 8 caps, Zendejas 4 caps, Wright 10 caps.

    So my point is the US were not set up for success. But the US were not trying their hardest to set themselves up for success. They were trying to test themselves in a soccer match. Several players were asked to do what they were not good at or new at without the support of our most experienced and best players. It's disappointing but hardly devastating. Sometimes you take an ass whooping. It doesn't necessarily mean that all or even any of the players suck or that something is wrong. The context is always important. And hopefully with this experience Busio and Morris and everyone else will take small steps towards being capable of being relied on more next time.

  11. What a mess. Just depressing as a fan to see that kind of lack of effort and indifference by the players.

    Shoutout to RaĂșl JimĂ©nez , who was him that game. He pretty much beat our entire squad single-handed Ku.

    Hopefully this was a wake up call to Poch. The key is whether he learns from it and uses it to improve. That is where I think we will (or at least should) see a difference between Poch and Berhalter. Gregg never changed anything really. I pray Poch makes adjustments đŸ™đŸœ

    I’m not sure how much the injury situation will improve over the next two months before the next camp.

    Guys who should NOT be in the next camp: Sargent, Musah, Morris, Robinson, and Aaronson (which hurts, because I’m a big fan of the hustle he plays with). I won’t cry if they leave out Ream, Scally, Zendejas or Tillman.

    Assuming Dest and Adams still won’t be available, guys who SHOULD be at the next camp that weren’t at this one: Balogin, McKennie (OK he was there but didn’t play), Maloney, Richards, Tolkien, Weah, Reyna, and then either Yow or Luna as a winger.

    Hang in there, boys.

  12. I’m not that upset. This was a punch you in the mouth kind of game against Mexico in Mexico. We roll out aaronson who gets blown over by a stiff breeze, Busio who’s never taken the ball away from anyone, and Morris who is actually over a 100Lbs but is really slow. One look at the lineup and you knew we were going to lose the midfield. So then we are relying on Musah to the outside to make something happen in the final third
.. so the only way we score with that lineup is Busio, Tillman and Jedi combine on the Left to get the ball to Sargent or Mexico’s defense falls asleep. I’m not saying Maloney is the best most technical player ever but he would have helped, we needed a tough guy, it’s also why for tough matches I start Tyler over Johnny. Didn’t understand why zendejas and Vasquez didn’t start, you were going to get their best. USMNT need more away matches.

  13. Just now waking up to the Championship being a just ok average league ranked by Opta 1 level below MLS.

    Maybe that's the reason why our Championship level guys have NEVER ever been significantly better than our MLS guys.

    Dual nats can be great as role players, but they're rarely stars and are often mercenaries that won't fight hard

  14. What this shows us is our player depth is weak. Unfortunately a big load of our starters are hurt and the backups showed they are a big drop off in quality.

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