The Arsenal Transfer Show EP434: Thomas Partey, Bruno Guimaraes, Michael Olise, Mourinho & More!
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0:00 Intro
2:00 Charity Match
4:30 Jose Mourinho
5:26 Arsenal holidays
5:59 Michael Olise
6:50 Thomas Partey
7:55 Smith Rowe
8:30 Bruno Guimaraes
11:05 Q&A
40 Comments
Upload United channelling Man United for their game apparently š
Man, Tom, please donāt be denigrating about the UK and racism.
Weāre consistently in the top 3 for least racist countries in the world.
Of course, there are always outliers who canāt accept people of others races or ethnicities, and some could argue that their views are influenced by certain factors we are exposed to as a country (whether reported on or not), but they represent a tiny minority.
Loving the content other than that little niggle. ā¤
I think thereās this thing with all types of vice. Iām ok with this level , but not ok with something I think is a few rungs up the ladder. A bit of wine might be fine, but maybe someone passes on the scotch whisky. A bit of prize play might be fine, but maybe someone passes on the sports betting.
That framework might help a bit. All or nothing, non nuanced, takes almost always abandon the in-between reality of everyday life.
So, it is possible to support a ābanā on the betting companies (shirts, adverts, etc) simply because of the consequences the players might face (for betting on their sport). Itās ok to then turn around and maybe use those services. Or turn around and do a prizes competition. Or turn around and do a lottery game. Itās an interesting conversation.
The difference with betting and the lottery is all around the dangers of addiction. It's much easier to get addicted to gambling and not know where to draw the line. It's much harder to get addicted to something like the lottery. You're not risking so much because the costs are so much lower. There's a strong link with addiction and the thrill of risk-taking that's worth exploring.
Very heart broken š partey is š¢leaving arteta mistake
With respect Tom I fear You have missed the point. Addiction is a mental affliction. One I will take to my grave. It has a worse side. The blessed unaffected don`t really think it`s a thing. I`ve been clean some Years now, I learned coping mechanism`s for my "trigger`s". I dare not imagine if my addiction manifested itself in gambling. Said trigger`s on my Hero`s shirt`s would cripple Me!!!!
For me itās the number of people whose lives are ruined betting vs ruining their lives on the lottery/ football prizes
Liverpools low net spend is also based on a few high profile outgoings like coutinho
And the net spend merchants never want to bring up wages + agent fees into their debates
I actually rhink we shoyld sign the type of striker who can also play as a winger, and a 6 who can also be an 8. I would bring Gyokeres and Zubimendi. Both first team ready and dont break the bank
18:26 ederson mate
Stick to Football
The difference between betting raffles/lotteries is with betting on outcomes of games a person has a part to play in the outcome. With that the human physiology tends to trend toward thinking they can affect change through more effort, cheating, or just doing more to change the odds. With raffles and lottery your ability to affect outcomes is minimal with more purchases of opportunities and without criminal activity impossible to achieve an outcome based on cheating or any other negative traits.
Tom, on the issue of the lottery vs sports betting punishments for playersāit seems to me that your issue isnāt with sports betting in general. The issue is the moral discrepancy of inundating players with the idea of sports betting being a part of the game, down to the sponsors on their shirt, then punishing them harshly for any involvement in it. At the same time, sports betting companies are profiting from the relationship and monetizing the players. It seems an unfair temptation and I agree with your opinion that it is different from the lottery or prize drawings.
I think an analogous example would be a U-18s team being sponsored by Heineken and then punishing the kids harshly if they were caught underage drinking.
Almost certain the only reason Partey played the last few games was to double check that we should be getting rid of him.
Iām back. Lost my old account. How could I forget about this great channel. My bad lol coyg!!!
Really interesting talk on gambling. My take is FP essentially is a form of gambling (although low level). If youāre paying for goods/services that isnāt guaranteed to you ā itās gambling. Betting is slightly different but they do live on the same road.
i thought that was a subbuteo pitch š¤£š¤£
Unpopular opinion. Keep the squad. Few additions if a kimmick or such become available
people should remember there was a time in the recent past where you couldnt give your tickets away when they talk about increasing to capacity of the stadium to solve the problem of getting a ticket
We should go for Yosuf Fofana who is in his last year of contract, pedro Neto as Saka backup can work as well because he wont be playing all the time so his injuries can be managed. Get a young CB so we dont have to pay to much, get zubemendi as DM as well. this leaves us with enough money to get that one Marque signing that should be striker now my preference is Isak but Victor G or Osimen will do great. Dont want Sesko and wait for 3 years for him to come good.
Rice is not a good 6 when it comes to progressing ball, he hugs the bakl too long and mostly passes sideways. I think he has excelled at left 8 keep him there and get Zubemendi. I would keep partey for one last year as he wont fetch us too much in transfer market anyways and can be used as back to zubemendi or can come in bigger games if zubemendi struggles to blend in the first season.
Arsenal should look at increasing stadium capacity, we have the fan base and that will be increase our revenue. Aim for 70k to 74k seat stadium.
Squad depth is the new excuse, so we should really forge winning any trophy next season as well because we won't have squad depth?
The halftime team talk mustāve been abysmal
Betting and raffles are very similar but different.
Iāve never placed a bet in my life, never played a fruit machine but I have played online poker on and off over the years but never put a lot of money into it, like Ā£5-Ā£10 over many monthās. I think there is a huge problem with betting advertisement as itās absolutely everywhere and and at all times of the day.
Just watched United win the FA Cup Hopefully we actually start caring about other things other than just the league next season.
Hi ton watch your show at 8, was good as always. Got some thought's on gambling. I work in a betting shop I see first hand how the addiction of betting affects people, I subscribe to your chats got into football prizes and found I got a bit addicted to it, I have now stopped. As any form of gambling
can get addictive. But I like you think this a form of raffle all the same, I love your balanced views, one thing id love you to promote next season champions games to get them all red like dortmund do in yellow, I think it increases the atmosphere. Thanks kevin
So man united in their two worst season went away with 2 cups, while we are still making excuses about squad depth, Pep and catchup money. How can any one justify not winning cups like UEFA cup, Carabao and FA cup. Liverpool and united both have won multiple trophies in Pep's era but we have lifted the best excuse & process trophy. Not blaming Arteta for league or CL because the team faught but to keep throwing domestic cups and UEFA cup in bin and then fan making exucuses like squad depth & no one cares about domestic cup is just unacceptable. The fans who disrespect the domestic cups are just dumb, they dont know they are actually rejecting & putting mud on their own club history because we have the most FA cups.
Morning Tom! Memorial Day (3 day) weekend here.
Had a friend post a meme on Facebook at 8:00, before I had my coffee, about the search (currently in its infancy) for āthe hard questionā. Do you by chance have any insight into the study of consciousness. If you happen to know Roger Penrose of Oxford you must have some theories. šš„“š
3 nil at half time and your team still got done by counterattacking football? Why? They should be getting done by counters
Bad boy Bruno in midfield? Man, that would be one expensive, star-studded midfield.
That's wrong Tom, The Emirates was built as an 80000 seater stadium but the club chose to use wider seats for fan comfort. It wouldn't be difficult to add a few thousand extra seats. However the club have stuck with the wider seats.
Keep party unless you get a decent fee over 20mil adds great depth and proper quality
The insane level of gambling advertising during sport, and punditry of sport, has an overwhelming exposure to children which raffles/lotteries do not. The association between betting on sport and enjoying sport is a gateway that needs to be removed. I imagine players with gambling addictions would come from their outside environments and not directly related to advertising in football although I can see where it can create temptation for addicts. The culture of betting in sport and its effects on children is the bigger issue for me and would prefer sport in general was rid of it.
Anyone who's actually interested in the moral quandaries posed by betting company sponsorship should read/listen to Philip Auclair and JosimarFootball. One of the best resources on one of the seediest underbellies of modern sport.
Tom im an Arsenal Supporter from Australia I've been so from the Seventies . I would love to go to the Emerates . Good Luck to those people who can go to Games a bit Jelious . English or from Overseas.
100m on CM after spending 100m on a DM. What has happened to my beautiful sport š
Players/staff can have direct influence in games and are compensated well for their professional involvement in the game. Iām wondering legally if itās in their contracts if betting is prohibited. If so then itās simple. As for lottery vs betting, itās a choice and to generalize what is right for masses is impossible. The only criticism I have about football prizes itās UK only, love the show and as a foreign listener it does suck that I canāt participate in that. I am for sure not saying that you are xenophobic, you are the opposite, but that would be my only critique of football prizes. Look forward to supporting you and all the great content creators that you collaborate with. COYG!!!
Listened on catch up and came to comment re. Gambling issue. I'm very anti-betting, but do think there is a difference with a raffle/lottery if there is a limited number of tickets (and therefore money to lose) with a defined prize. With betting, your losses are unlimited, and your return more opaque. I think both could be problematic to somebody with addiction, but if you have an addiction you'll be drawn towards the more dangerous option.
Should we ban tombolas at school fetes?
United and Chelsea are ahead with no UEFA?