I’m so tired of all these conversations and articles…
I just wanna see my team win a game…
Hefty_Breadfruit_421 on
Take me back to July 10 – 12.
Back to back Here We Go deals for Kudus and MGW.
I couldn’t believe what I was reading, thought we’re finally acting like a big club.
It didn’t even last a whole day.
Manoli20 on
Long read, and nothing we as fans don’t already know, but think JPB sums up the shit show quite well.
Qui-GonSmith on
He might have sacked Frank earlier and spent more in the January window, but ultimately, relegation is his legacy more than anyone else’s.
Vin-Su on
Both are true.
MuteTadpole on
Daniel Levy was always “a” problem but never “the” problem. He had his good qualities, like not being afraid to pull the trigger when something wasn’t working, but he had his bad ones as well, like poor overall squad investment/DoF/scouting hires.
In a club like ours all of the individual problems just roll up to the larger overall problem which is that our ownership is clueless
feelinghothothotter on
I was just thinking that. I still stand by that sacking Ange was the wrong move. Momentum in this game is more than anything. The even worse move was getting in Thomas Frank. That’s a huge shift in play.
Whatever. We’re getting relegated now. Can’t believe I will be crying again for my club after a year but for an entirely opposite reason.
aginglifter on
Yes and no. Some of his decisions have led us here especially haggling over transfer fees causing us to lose Fernandes, Eze, Diaz, and Grealish.
But his hiring of Lange has been most detrimental.
Also, we still don’t know if the lack of injection of ownership money was his call or the Lewis families.
Bottom line he did a shit job in his later years but of the people who are still here Lange and Vinai and ENIC are culpable for how far we have dropped.
fietfo on
I hold him and enic ultimately responsible for the decline over the last 5-10 years and I think he should have left once the stadium was done.
But I’m also aware that he probably would have sacked Frank sooner and we’d likely not be in this situation now.
nopirates on
The real problem with Levy was that he was an autocrat. Modem football club management evolved beyond that forever ago and he refused to operate the club in a truly 21st century manner.
The addition of layers of management with decision making delegated is the way successful teams (and businesses) operate. His reluctance to adopt modern scouting and talent identification methods is a huge factor in our poor success rates in both the transfer market and in development of our own players.
I suspect that the changes in operations of the club that occurred in the last two years were forced on him and he was either unwilling or incapable of putting the right people into the right structure to make this work. Maybe it was both.
The unraveling of the team dates back nearly a decade. Idiotic coaching choices like Mourinho and Conte and the whiplash changes in style made development and player signing haphazard. Not having the right way to spot and get talent made it worse. Even adding Paratici made no sense. He’s an old school scout with a good Rolodex. He wasn’t right for this task either.
Bad decisions multiply. The wrong people in the wrong places operating without the correct support will never do a good job. Vinai, Lange, and Frank were all competent at their jobs before arriving here. The combination of them with perhaps lukewarm Levy support was a disaster waiting to happen.
With Levy gone perhaps a structure can be built that is more intelligent and modern, but it is always impossible to look toward the future when you are constantly dealing with disaster in the present.
DekiTree on
we finished 17th last season under Levy. Only difference is that the promoted teams are stronger this year
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I’m so tired of all these conversations and articles…
I just wanna see my team win a game…
Take me back to July 10 – 12.
Back to back Here We Go deals for Kudus and MGW.
I couldn’t believe what I was reading, thought we’re finally acting like a big club.
It didn’t even last a whole day.
Long read, and nothing we as fans don’t already know, but think JPB sums up the shit show quite well.
He might have sacked Frank earlier and spent more in the January window, but ultimately, relegation is his legacy more than anyone else’s.
Both are true.
Daniel Levy was always “a” problem but never “the” problem. He had his good qualities, like not being afraid to pull the trigger when something wasn’t working, but he had his bad ones as well, like poor overall squad investment/DoF/scouting hires.
In a club like ours all of the individual problems just roll up to the larger overall problem which is that our ownership is clueless
I was just thinking that. I still stand by that sacking Ange was the wrong move. Momentum in this game is more than anything. The even worse move was getting in Thomas Frank. That’s a huge shift in play.
Whatever. We’re getting relegated now. Can’t believe I will be crying again for my club after a year but for an entirely opposite reason.
Yes and no. Some of his decisions have led us here especially haggling over transfer fees causing us to lose Fernandes, Eze, Diaz, and Grealish.
But his hiring of Lange has been most detrimental.
Also, we still don’t know if the lack of injection of ownership money was his call or the Lewis families.
Bottom line he did a shit job in his later years but of the people who are still here Lange and Vinai and ENIC are culpable for how far we have dropped.
I hold him and enic ultimately responsible for the decline over the last 5-10 years and I think he should have left once the stadium was done.
But I’m also aware that he probably would have sacked Frank sooner and we’d likely not be in this situation now.
The real problem with Levy was that he was an autocrat. Modem football club management evolved beyond that forever ago and he refused to operate the club in a truly 21st century manner.
The addition of layers of management with decision making delegated is the way successful teams (and businesses) operate. His reluctance to adopt modern scouting and talent identification methods is a huge factor in our poor success rates in both the transfer market and in development of our own players.
I suspect that the changes in operations of the club that occurred in the last two years were forced on him and he was either unwilling or incapable of putting the right people into the right structure to make this work. Maybe it was both.
The unraveling of the team dates back nearly a decade. Idiotic coaching choices like Mourinho and Conte and the whiplash changes in style made development and player signing haphazard. Not having the right way to spot and get talent made it worse. Even adding Paratici made no sense. He’s an old school scout with a good Rolodex. He wasn’t right for this task either.
Bad decisions multiply. The wrong people in the wrong places operating without the correct support will never do a good job. Vinai, Lange, and Frank were all competent at their jobs before arriving here. The combination of them with perhaps lukewarm Levy support was a disaster waiting to happen.
With Levy gone perhaps a structure can be built that is more intelligent and modern, but it is always impossible to look toward the future when you are constantly dealing with disaster in the present.
we finished 17th last season under Levy. Only difference is that the promoted teams are stronger this year