[@Mattspiro] Ethan Nwaneri’s loan fee is tied to minutes: the more he plays, the less Marseille pay #Arsenal, L’Equipe reports.

Despite this, under Habib Beye, he hasn’t started a single game in two months – with the newspaper citing a “persistent impression of nonchalance.”

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  1. on one hand this is unfortunate

    on the other hand the management of nwaneri has been piss poor

    if you’re going to keep him in the squad and on the bench for half a season, at least give him more chances. If you’re not, then why didn’t he just get sent on loan in the summer? total pisstake.

  2. gunningIVglory on

    What an absolute disaster of a deal

    1. No recall clause
    2. Cash per minute, so no incentive to play him more
    3. Weakening our team in the middle of January for no reason.

  3. Feels like one of those clauses that looks smart on paper but doesn’t matter if the coach just doesn’t trust you. Two months with no starts is rough either way.
    The “nonchalance” label is always tricky too. Some of the best players look like they’re barely trying until suddenly they’re cooking. But if the manager reads it as lack of effort, you’re kinda stuck.

  4. Affectionate_Art4277 on

    Ethan gains absolutely nothing from being sat on a bench in France.

    He genuinely wouldve been better off remaining with Arsenal.

  5. i feel like whenever we as fans like a player we claim everyone is mismanaging them and everyone is blind. what if he‘s not as good as we want him to be? with downman shining right now i don’t really see him having a future at arsenal tbh. don‘t get me wrong, i like him but if we can get some money for him i say sell him and invest in a left winger.  

  6. SundayLeagueStocko on

    Nwaneri has been vastly overrated by this fanbase, which is unfortunate as he is still a young player with room to develop, and people’s expectations have got completely out of hand.

    He had a handful of promising appearances on the wing before everyone discovered he wants nothing to do with the byline and will look to cut inside at every opportunity. Close the inside space and he offers nothing from a wide area. He is not and will never be a wide player. Not his profile, not his game. Props to him for covering when we needed him though. Madueke and Dowman are simply just better wide players, by quite some distance tbh.

    As a central player his dribbling and ball control is excellent, but creativity in the final ball is an area of development. Sometimes showed exciting ideas but execution was hit and miss. Lovely ballstriking, that is top notch and an attribute we do lack in attack.

    Off the ball plenty of work to do.

    Instead of railing against Arteta for loaning him out, or the club in general for sending him to Marseille, ask yourselves why Nwaneri hasn’t been able to force the team in 4th in France to play him.

    He is not the player you think he is. YET.

  7. Can teams mutually agree to break a loan or does there have to be a break clause? Like we should just ask for him back and take a bit off the loan fee. We could do with him for the run in with all the injuries. Not saying he’d play every game but it would be more than at Marseille right now. 

  8. My god. Does every arsenal sub overreact about everything the club does where outcomes are not 100% success rate? A teenager was sent on loan to get professional minutes then a managerial change has meant less minutes. It didn’t workout, it’s 6 months and can go on another one next season.

  9. Over_Tadpole_2593 on

    I’m old enough to remember Serge Gnabry’s failed loan at West Brom, when Pulis wouldn’t play him.

    Fans claimed he wasn’t good enough for Arsenal if he couldn’t play for WBA, the player got frustrated with how Arsenal handled his career and he left.

    Arsenal fans spent the next few years pining over Gnabry as he became an elite player for Bayern Munich.

  10. ScopeyMcBangBang on

    Nonchalance is exactly how I’d describe him in an Arsenal shirt. He’s just such a low tractor in every sense – no passion, no stress, no happiness – just flat energy.

  11. Justnotstressed on

    Robbed him of an opportunity to carry pens in training whilst chasing the literal fucking title.

  12. Electrical-Lab-9593 on

    Some managers just instill an in and out group and don’t care about development

    he could just have the attitude “he aint costing me points just to develop just so he can leave a 3 months “, if makes sense for him to give the development minutes to somebody who will be there next year or he can sell

    its why the manager is so important in a youth loan, I don’t know much about this manager , but imagine loaning a player to a team jose Mourinho takes over

  13. addictivesign on

    Given the number of injuries to creators in this squad I wonder whether Nwaneri would have stepped up if he had stayed and become the integral part of a winning team.

    Impossible to know but I would have cancelled the loan as soon as Merino got injured

  14. I kinda imagined that he was there to add to his character/nonchalance than anything else if I’m being honest.

  15. It’s a very real problem with his game – at times, he doesn’t appear to want to compete at all.

    It’s also why I think he’s more suited for the wing or a a striker – calm, cool, and collected is better suited for those positions than CM

  16. Connect-Amoeba3618 on

    The problem with the French is that they don’t have a word for nonchalance.

  17. MissAntiRacist on

    As much as I want to be mad at the Habib, I also have to be a little pissed off at Ethan for failing a loan assignment. He should be trying to make himself undeniable. I fear he’ll just be another ESR/Nketiah to us. 

  18. Sounds like Marseille is paying a premium for a player they don’t even trust to start.

  19. ZebraZealousideal944 on

    Marseille has been a shitshow on every level of the club the entire season so this shouldn’t impact how Nwaneri is perceived internally.

    Also, his football abilities have never been in doubt so this loan is either gonna forge his spirit to come back stronger this summer or sink him and we can then cash on a pure profit homegrown player tied to a long term contract.

  20. Chidoribraindev on

    I’m gonna block it from my mind. I was in the minority thinking Arteta was a moron for agreeing to this loan when we have a history of injury crises and Nwaneri proved a much better Saka replacement last year than Madueke this season. Crazy mismanagement by the coach that keeps tripping on the same stone.

  21. Kriss-Kringle on

    Why the fuck is he still there then? Bring him home so he can help us in the final stages of the season.

  22. MrFreeLiving on

    So what actually is the process of cancelling his loan if we wanted to? I think the chance we have for both Prem and UCL, we should 100% just recall him, no? We actually need him and he will have the fire in his eyes to prove him self at the 10 role.

  23. BuddyLegsBailey on

    Arteta didn’t trust him, why are we assuming he’d walk into another team and play?

  24. yallareTRASH69 on

    I will forever despise Arteta for loaning such a promising talent. One of the worst loans as well.