Suddenly all these positive PR spins are coming out
jerrystuffhouse on
By far the hardest stretch of the season, especially when you consider the cup fixtures.
The directors should have never waited to so long to sack Maresca. The team wasn’t playing well and had clearly tuned him out.
CalmAngryDude on
We’re dreadful overall this season, but that doesn’t take away Liam has been very poor.
kp22cfc on
Give it 6 more games 😭
C0mm0nVillain on
Yeah we have been shit all season but we are shitter now
hebrewimpeccable on
A good chunk of those Maresca draws and losses would have been wins if he didn’t have to sub on the Bozo brothers into defence to see out games or deal with dumbass red cards.
BlueCo can put out these PR posts as much as they want, the fact the players themselves were all in on Maresca speaks volumes
mb194dc on
Near identical.
Which isn’t surprising since Eghbali is really managing the team.
Rambo_11 on
Mid table before, mid table after
EstevaoWillian on
So pretty much the same and we’ve been massively underperforming xGD wise with Rosenior so far, long-term it looks to be an improvement.
Also Palmer scores that open goal and Roseniors suddenly ahead 🤷🏻♂️
Sufficient_Tear_6787 on
We got the second hardest run to the end of the season according to opta but that was worrying about it teams that win things switch on this time of year
MONI_85 on
The fact we are even talking about Liam Rosenior being Chelsea manager says it all.
It’s been an absolute car crash. And even more damning, the longer he’s been there, the worse it gets.
a3kstuntin on
Show the defensive stats now
Show how Rosenior conceded way more than Maresca in less games
grantchester7meadows on
Additionally, Maresca was in charge for 18 months and fucked off mid season, leaving a mess for Rosenior to take over
Rosenior is getting unfairly judged
dsahfd on
Results were horribly inconsistent under Maresca. Rosenior beat Maresca’s biggest league win streak of the season in his first 4 games because he won them all and Maresca never won 4 league games in a row this season in half a season. The team never built momentum in the first half of the season which was a huge step back from last season where we built momentum at the start and end of the season.
You can blame red cards but again, that’s on Maresca. It’s a discipline issue he didn’t fix.
gloryboy101 on
it’s that point in the season again where we od on useless stats
lance777 on
Everyone keeps acting like the difference betweeen Maresca and Rosenoir is night and day. It isn’t. Stylistic yes, result wise not really. Maresca has an inherently better defensive setup. Defense by infinite possession and defense by control and unwillingness to lose shape. This safe football also means we struggle against bus parkers. Rosenoir’s risky football has the opposite effect, but also unlocks guys like Joao pedro and provides more space and time to palmer. I want to see how Rosenoir’s football changes with a keeper like Penders or with a back fuve. Terry said we were shipping goals because CB was often isolated. The way Penders plays will help with that. A back three might also help with that. We just don’t have wingbacks to play a back three now.
Valuable_Proposal_56 on
Don’t need any stats to paper over the fact that we’ve bought shit and play shitter.
Rosenior needs the summer to hopefully bed in his identity and let’s see where it gets us. Feels like he’s playing an inherited system rather than his own.
Regardless can absolutely see a terrible start to next season, us back in the conference league and him being sacked in November with another inexperienced manager at the helm for us to start the cycle alllllllll over again.
GiganticEvenings on
It’s almost like we were shit before
I do not understand the Maresca revisionist
drew_ww on
Mid table stats
Key-Tip-7521 on
Clearly Rosenior is better than Maresca. RIGHT “Maresca Out” CROWD?!
mikevin99 on
The cope in here is insane. The same people who are praising him in here will be having a hissy fit when we finish 7th in a few weeks wondering how it happened.
JarlDanklin on
Weird time for the apologists to start coming out after shipping 7 unanswered goals in the last 3 premier league matches and getting battered 8-2 on aggregate in the CL. But hey, “lOoK at tHeSE StaTs!”
Either get a top percentile manager to come in or improve the squad significantly. Another ‘project’ manager and we’re never gonna crack 70 points a season
OkCommunication339 on
BLUECO OUT🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵
LeFreakington on
Everyone using this to beef with eachother is actually kind of funny. You can interpret this picture/comparison however you want in order to support the opinions you already have.
Scannerk on
This is not gonna be popular 😂
Full_Philosopher_304 on
Under Maresca, we limited opposition to few chances and moments. The fan base could unanimously agree that a lot of the goals we scored were due to the lack of quality (sporting directors) rather than tactical.
Under Rosenoir, every game is a shootout regardless of the opposition. There’s a complete lack of control, if you look back at the games we won, you could see that on another day we could have also lost those games because of our lack of control.
My biggest fear is that we’ll look at stats like this and use it to defend Rosenoir when he should have really been sacked by now. No wins against a decent/good team. No identity. No structure. No belief.
dsmooth74 on
How about goals conceded 🤣…missing for some reason
democi on
So safe to say things are improving under rosenoir. This is the reality not an opinion. If we use points as the ultimate metric which is fair. He’s getting better results. Hopefully the points per game is on an upward trend as time progresses.
threedogfm on
Stats don’t capture vibes though. I think many of us feel that we were on a positive (if sometimes frustrating) swing w Maresca but the last few months, at best, have been several steps back. While we started well under him, we’ve been getting pummeled week in and week out for two months now with no reprieve in sight
NoInteraction3525 on
Useless stats! Show us goals scored vs conceded, number of games with 10 v 11 etc. All this PR to whitewash Rosenior is absolute BS. I wasn’t a Maresca Stan but there were no games where you could say we weren’t competitive. We were bland and indecisive but always competitive. We got slapped by PSG like little bitches and for all the shit I gave Maresca, that would never have happened even if we went down to 10 men because at least he had a system that controlled possession (even if I hated that rubbish pointless passing) hence reducing the amount of goals. Rosenior on the other hand has no damn system for attack or defence that actually makes logical sense
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Suddenly all these positive PR spins are coming out
By far the hardest stretch of the season, especially when you consider the cup fixtures.
The directors should have never waited to so long to sack Maresca. The team wasn’t playing well and had clearly tuned him out.
We’re dreadful overall this season, but that doesn’t take away Liam has been very poor.
Give it 6 more games 😭
Yeah we have been shit all season but we are shitter now
A good chunk of those Maresca draws and losses would have been wins if he didn’t have to sub on the Bozo brothers into defence to see out games or deal with dumbass red cards.
BlueCo can put out these PR posts as much as they want, the fact the players themselves were all in on Maresca speaks volumes
Near identical.
Which isn’t surprising since Eghbali is really managing the team.
Mid table before, mid table after
So pretty much the same and we’ve been massively underperforming xGD wise with Rosenior so far, long-term it looks to be an improvement.
Also Palmer scores that open goal and Roseniors suddenly ahead 🤷🏻♂️
We got the second hardest run to the end of the season according to opta but that was worrying about it teams that win things switch on this time of year
The fact we are even talking about Liam Rosenior being Chelsea manager says it all.
It’s been an absolute car crash. And even more damning, the longer he’s been there, the worse it gets.
Show the defensive stats now
Show how Rosenior conceded way more than Maresca in less games
Additionally, Maresca was in charge for 18 months and fucked off mid season, leaving a mess for Rosenior to take over
Rosenior is getting unfairly judged
Results were horribly inconsistent under Maresca. Rosenior beat Maresca’s biggest league win streak of the season in his first 4 games because he won them all and Maresca never won 4 league games in a row this season in half a season. The team never built momentum in the first half of the season which was a huge step back from last season where we built momentum at the start and end of the season.
You can blame red cards but again, that’s on Maresca. It’s a discipline issue he didn’t fix.
it’s that point in the season again where we od on useless stats
Everyone keeps acting like the difference betweeen Maresca and Rosenoir is night and day. It isn’t. Stylistic yes, result wise not really. Maresca has an inherently better defensive setup. Defense by infinite possession and defense by control and unwillingness to lose shape. This safe football also means we struggle against bus parkers. Rosenoir’s risky football has the opposite effect, but also unlocks guys like Joao pedro and provides more space and time to palmer. I want to see how Rosenoir’s football changes with a keeper like Penders or with a back fuve. Terry said we were shipping goals because CB was often isolated. The way Penders plays will help with that. A back three might also help with that. We just don’t have wingbacks to play a back three now.
Don’t need any stats to paper over the fact that we’ve bought shit and play shitter.
Rosenior needs the summer to hopefully bed in his identity and let’s see where it gets us. Feels like he’s playing an inherited system rather than his own.
Regardless can absolutely see a terrible start to next season, us back in the conference league and him being sacked in November with another inexperienced manager at the helm for us to start the cycle alllllllll over again.
It’s almost like we were shit before
I do not understand the Maresca revisionist
Mid table stats
Clearly Rosenior is better than Maresca. RIGHT “Maresca Out” CROWD?!
The cope in here is insane. The same people who are praising him in here will be having a hissy fit when we finish 7th in a few weeks wondering how it happened.
Weird time for the apologists to start coming out after shipping 7 unanswered goals in the last 3 premier league matches and getting battered 8-2 on aggregate in the CL. But hey, “lOoK at tHeSE StaTs!”
– Pochettino = 1.65 ppg
– Maresca = 1.69 ppg
– Rosenior = 1.54 ppg
Either get a top percentile manager to come in or improve the squad significantly. Another ‘project’ manager and we’re never gonna crack 70 points a season
BLUECO OUT🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵
Everyone using this to beef with eachother is actually kind of funny. You can interpret this picture/comparison however you want in order to support the opinions you already have.
This is not gonna be popular 😂
Under Maresca, we limited opposition to few chances and moments. The fan base could unanimously agree that a lot of the goals we scored were due to the lack of quality (sporting directors) rather than tactical.
Under Rosenoir, every game is a shootout regardless of the opposition. There’s a complete lack of control, if you look back at the games we won, you could see that on another day we could have also lost those games because of our lack of control.
My biggest fear is that we’ll look at stats like this and use it to defend Rosenoir when he should have really been sacked by now. No wins against a decent/good team. No identity. No structure. No belief.
How about goals conceded 🤣…missing for some reason
So safe to say things are improving under rosenoir. This is the reality not an opinion. If we use points as the ultimate metric which is fair. He’s getting better results. Hopefully the points per game is on an upward trend as time progresses.
Stats don’t capture vibes though. I think many of us feel that we were on a positive (if sometimes frustrating) swing w Maresca but the last few months, at best, have been several steps back. While we started well under him, we’ve been getting pummeled week in and week out for two months now with no reprieve in sight
Useless stats! Show us goals scored vs conceded, number of games with 10 v 11 etc. All this PR to whitewash Rosenior is absolute BS. I wasn’t a Maresca Stan but there were no games where you could say we weren’t competitive. We were bland and indecisive but always competitive. We got slapped by PSG like little bitches and for all the shit I gave Maresca, that would never have happened even if we went down to 10 men because at least he had a system that controlled possession (even if I hated that rubbish pointless passing) hence reducing the amount of goals. Rosenior on the other hand has no damn system for attack or defence that actually makes logical sense