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    Neymar doesn’t make Brazil’s All-Time XI and I will die on this hill


    Before you come for me in the comments, hear me out.

    Pelé. R9. Ronaldinho. Zico. Socrates. Falcao. Roberto Carlos. Cafu.

    That's the bench competition. Not some random pub quiz — these are actual World Cup winners and Ballon d'Or holders fighting for 11 spots.

    Neymar — Brazil's ALL-TIME top scorer with 129 goals — doesn't get in. And honestly? It's not even close.

    We broke it down position by position in a full podcast episode:
    https://youtu.be/X3obPFv5at8

    The Garrincha omission is the one that actually hurts though. Man was born with bent legs and still cooked everyone at the 1962 World Cup.

    My Brazil XI:

    Taffarel

    Cafu — Aldair — Lucio — Roberto Carlos

    Falcao — Zico — Socrates

    Ronaldinho — R9 — Pelé

    Fight me.

    Drop your Brazil XI below. If you include Neymar you have to explain who you're dropping. Good luck with that.

    by 25advaitt02

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    2. redd5ive on

      AI slop + Pele played almost exclusively in central positions throughout his career

    3. bling_singh on

      No disagreement. The country puts out a lot of talent and there’s only 11 spots. No need to watch the podcast.

    4. malkebulan on

      It’s not that tall a hill tbh, and I hope you’ve got enough seating for all of us.

    5. tavorasc on

      Of course he doesn’t he is a LW and there is Ronaldinho, even if he was a CAM there is Kaka and if a ST you have Ronaldo and Pele

    6. Ktioru on

      As a brazilian there’s no way in hell he’s in my all time XI, most of us agree with this take. Anyone who says otherwise probably lacks Brazil ball knowledge

    7. NairbZaid10 on

      Neymar produces a lot more than Ronaldinho on the wings and we know for a fact he can carry Brazil on his shoulders. At most its a 50/50 between him and Dinho as a player in general but on the wings Neymar is simply a lot better

    9. Classicalis on

      Didi in the midfield.
      Garrincha always. Go see the 2nd title of Brasil and understand what happened.
      I accept Cafu but Carlos Alberto and Djalma Santos were very good.

    11. h667 on

      no one is fighting for neymar on brazil’s best 11 of all time except neymar and his pr agency

    15. Bogroleum on

      I dont think anyone in their right mind would pick Neymar. He’s got probably the two greatest strikers of all time in front of him.

    16. russ_knightlife on

      No need to die my friend, he doesnt make the bench. Hes not done anything in nearly a decade

    20. sheva1992 on

      The difference between Neymar and Ronaldinho isn’t that big, in my opinion. Ronaldinho is more legendary, he defined a generation, while Neymar was overshadowed by Messi and Ronaldo. Some might argue that Ronaldinho won the World Cup and that’s it, but he wasn’t the best player—he was behind Rivaldo and Ronaldo in the 2002 World Cup. So, for the national team alone, if that’s the only focus, Garrincha is above him. But if we’re talking about football and impact on a generation, Ronaldinho is acceptable, though it’s debatable.

    25. Liquid_Cascabel on

      His NT record is so inflated/overrated due to all the friendlies. People forget he has never won a proper title with Brazil, let’s see if Vini can do better