Are records more important to Harry Kane than trophies? talkSPORT’s Jim White, Simon Jordan and Dean Ashton discuss!
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40 Comments
Drogba has less goals than a lot of premier league strikers but he would go down as an all-time great.
How do you review Kaneβs career? Two wordsβ¦.no trophies
Dean is being obtuse, no player in his right mind would rather forgo trophies for just a goal scoring record. I have never heard a player who have won major trophies come and say βI wish I did not win any of those trophies and would have rather broken a goal scoring recordβ. Ridiculous
Well, there are team accomplishments and there are individual accomplishments, aren't there? The lack of team achievement does not diminish individual accomplishment. Is the lowliest Man City player greater than Harry Kane because he was on a team that won championships? No.
Why does this topic always keep going for Kane yet it never happened for Shearer? Shearer won 1 league title. Is that enough to remove him from the discussion?
Records will always be broken .
Winning trophies is what matters .
Nonsense. Strikers want to do both! TGS and win trophies. Just ask Thierry Henry.
Wasteful, cause he's at Spurs! ππ
Dean Ashton is capping
Beating a record is temporary. Someone comes along and beats it and you are just a footnote. Winning a title or trophy is forever
Wayne Rooney beat Sir Bobby Charltonβs goal scoring record for Manchester United but also it littered with trophy winning medals as well
Can't really compare shearer with kane in terms of personal club loyalty. Kane is a born gooner released by Arsenal's academy and he tried to negotiate a move to man city for a whole summer.
its about winning. nothing more. nothing less.
A born loser just like Southgate goals mean nothing without trophies two born loser,s going nowhere
Jimmy Greaves actually won something though to go alongside his goals, so itβs a moot point.
I think its great being England a Spurs top goalscorer and as an arsenal fan I think hes been a special player but when hes been in big games whether for England or in cup finals for spurs hes not produced his best. So for Dean Ashton to say he would prefer to score goals over having a cabinet full of trophies will only stand up if the goals he scored would have won him something. People used to say Thierry Henry never scored in big games but he won two league titles and 3 FA cups with arsenal
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber β
Winning trophies is more important for any sports person than records and will be more remembered from the public. Harry Kane is bottle job that will be remembered for bottle it in big stage.
Winning a trophy you take to your death bed goal records get broke
What an absolute joke. Ashton….mate…pal sorry your career was curtailed but for you to say you'd rather be a top scorer than a winner is pure waffle. Your only saying that to ram home your point.
What is the point of goals if not for enough three points when accumulated leads you to the holy grail – prem. Or goals that lead you to the next round/top your group and lead you once again to the next round and eventually to the business end of the tournament where once again you want to score goals to win the tournament. Your a mug for chatting that gibberish, Kane is a wonderful striker but unfortunately he wasted away at spuds to only be their record goalscorer. Even the current holder won at least one Prem, what has Kane won. Goals are only meaningful if they win you something, doesn't necessarily have to be the final could be semis quarters, 3 quarters of a prem season but ultimately if your goals don't lead to a trophy what is the point.
Your smoking elite green now that your not being tested. Am sorry but he'll be a failure if he doesn't win a prem or champs. Not bundesliga or la Liga, he's English, an absolute treasure, he needs to win a prem if not the champs with a English club. Simplez
No one but Spurs fans will remember Kane in 20 years time. Assuming he stays at Spurs and wins nothing.
Of course not records he breaks are π©
Lol dean talking π© to
thing is who would want too sign him lpool got nunez,city haaland ,aresnal jesus,that leaves,chelsea,and manu ,maybe ncastle
He shout just go to Manchester United. It would be good for the club and the player. Just imagine how he would change the attacking dynamic of that club.
I fully understand trophies mean alot , but you try to name the players who played for man city when they won there first Premier league title. Try to man the players who played for man utd and won there first tilte!!
Loads of players win the league by just being in the squad! Doesn't mean they earned it..
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Fewer goals
@1:06 wow, I'm speechless: that's the most loser mentality I've heard in my life, and it's shocking these guys are upholding it.
Bypass record can be broken silly trophy is more import all those goal mean nothing
When you look at Gareth Bale, he left Tottenham, went to Real Madrid and won everything. Looking at Harry Kane's career to date, he's stayed at Tottenham and has achieved a goal scoring tally. Loyalty vs Ambition.
Harry should go to Man United in the summer
Score as many goals but no medals oh dear, unless as keown says he is a national hero, π€£π€£π€£π€£
all of those penalty goals against San Marino and Andorra will be remembered through the annals of time
Goalscoring records can be lost by someone overtaking you. A champions league or premier league medal is never getting taken off you.
Ask Kane if he would give up every one of his England goals for a World Cup winners medal. The answer should be yes.
Dean Ashton is the closest thing we gona get to someone beating Simon in an argument, great pundit get him on more
Scoring boatloads of Goals yet no trophies sure, take a look at all the great goal scorers and their trophy cabinet, don't even mention Shearer
He has noteworthy goal record that wont be broken π someone is right behind him coming for it. The clown needs to win a trophy or heβll just become another mediocre player being overhyped
Won the Audi cup didn't he? Convenient how people gloss over this and meanwhile bang on about the premier league and the champion's league.