West Ham United’s Lucas Paquetá is facing a fine after being found guilty of two misconduct charges. talkSPORT’s Jim White, Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy discuss.
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42 Comments
You might want to do you research and read the 314 page findings before discussing this case. Simon Jordan is not informed on the matter and deals with headlines rather than susbstance.
Hell get that back when he sues them
Actually, if he was found not guilty then he has a counterclaim, which his legal team are now considering. If he decides not to go ahead with the counterclaim it cannot be a reflection upon his innocence merely that he has had a gut full of legal nonsense. Simon, trying to associate a non-counterclaim with actual (non proven) guilt is disingenuous and mischievous in the extreme.
Paqueta found guilty of withholding evidence is because he stated "No comment" to every question over 2 interviews. Doesn't everyone?
5th amendment doesn’t just mean you’re guilty and don’t want to talk it can also mean you’re innocent and don’t want to be tricked into saying anything the can use against you, for a very clever man Simon you can also be a right clown 🤡
I do understand what Jordan's getting at but Paqueta is probably thinking that seeking retribution will only result in another two years of unneeded pressure, remember the bloke broke down in tears during a game due to the pressures he was under.
Danny Murphy falling asleep 🤣🤣🤣
How do you provide information on something you know nothing about? 😂
Danny Murphy is baffled by this discussion, archetypal thick footballer
A 314 page document published on Wednesday revealed how an independent commision branded aspects of FA s failed case against Paqueta as surpising oncerning and contadictory.
Oh come on! The FA found nothing and rather than be left exposed to huge law suit they found a technicality to create an alibi for themselves i.e. a little doubt about the investigation that allows them to claim there was a reason to bring the charges. They took his phone and had it for months and didn’t find anything. Then gave it back and he threw it away as he’d bought another one. Then they asked for the phone back again and now they say he was obstructing their investigation lol! Clowns.
He only got found innocent because of the reputational damage it would do to the premier league if he got the ban he deserved
I blame sully.
talk about a red rag to a bull.. i'd sue them 100%.. 1000%
An utterly ridiculous situation. FA accused him, but couldn't prove the accusations. They damaged his career and West Ham also suffered. The FA should be the ones paying substantial compensation (£millions) to both Paqueta and West Ham United.
Exercising your right to silence is not in any way an admission of guilt. Remember that if you’re ever sat in an interview with police. Even if you’re innocent, “no comment, I want a lawyer”
Oh shut up you twats, there is nothing in it, he's innocent. Imagine Simon Jordan if it was a Palace player or Murphy if it was a Liverpool player 🤔
Betting radio taking about betting …❤❤
Simon Jordan is not like us, he's a grass and admitted it in this video
Devil in the details. Paqueta gave them his phone which they checked and then returned to him: he then disposed of this phone and replaced with a new one. The FA then asked for the original phone again, obviously too late. This seems to be the strength of his "non-cooperation". And all this took two years. FA a shambles.
Jordan talked for about 5 minutes but said nothing. Its clear that he has no idea about any of the details of this case.
Pay the £150,000 fine then get £500,000 compensation
Was good 4 years ago at Lyon. Has been bad since
This is harrassment, he should file a lawsuit against them
I suggest people read the KC’s judgement, before commenting on the case. Pretty damming for the FA.
The Guardian reports that the Commission appointed to examine the FA investigation has absolutely castigated the FA for their and their advisers colossal ineptitude. So Simon, rather than assume they must have had something to go on, maybe accept that the FA's rush of blood and continued incompetence indicates the opposite. I hope that some advisory (at least) heads roll, that Paqueta sues them for reputational damage and loss of potential improved income and that – if, and when – West Ham sell him they sue the FA for any consequential loss relative to the 85m City seemed prepared to pay before this schemozzle kicked off.
The standard was not ‘beyond all reasonable doubt’, but ‘on the balance of probabilities’. Jordan is wrong but he insists on throwing shade on Paqueta for what happened.
hes such a melt
If Paquetá sues the FA for damages he will presumably be embroiled in another 2 to 4 year battle with the FA. His claim could be as much as 50 million. It is hard to understand why Paquetá is not suing the FA?
Again in this case Simon misunderstands the burden of proof and therefore misunderstands how bad the FA case was. The burden of Proof was not the criminal level of 'beyond reasonable doubt'. It was at the civil standard – on the balance of probabilities. The report suggests that they could 't even get close to that standard. The process charges (non co-operation) are to muddy the waters – which Simon does rightly point out. But there was never any case to answer.
Lucas should be going after the fa for how poorly they've handled this situation.
And since this video, the legal team of Paqueta have said they are looking at damages. SJ really hates WHU and their players, and cannot accept he got this one all wrong all the way through. The FA's evidence was laughable and totally circumstantial. The evidence was based on a stats company that even their own prosecution lawyer disagreed with. The two charges he found guilty of were of when he was in interview, his brief told him not to answer certain questions. As always Talksport missing out the details to make a story that doesn't benefit the aghastness of it
The independent report was pretty damning of the FA. There was absolutely no case for a spot fixing charge. Even Clattenberg a respected ex referee came in and said two of the yellow cards were not even yellow cards and shouldn't have been given. It was a spurious charge which has had a damaging effect on not only Paq and WHU but everyone associated with it, including his family and friends. I wouldn't blame him if he walked away now, why go through all this again. That doesn't mean he was guilty and got away with it.
Wasn't he pretty much nailed on for a move to Man City before all this happened?
Fa are so corrupt
Utterly ludicrous and disgusting. Seems like they’re looking at covering their backsides.
For some reason the Bournemouth game is in my mind, didnt people know before hand that the FAs tails were up even before the actual investigation started? so…………..
How do you know that his team are not preparing a case Simon
Simon Jordan SPEAKING FACTS ☝🏾💯
These guys really shouldnt be talking about the law. They are confusing themselves
What really bothers me is the insinuation Simon is making about Paquetá, that the lack of legal action against the F.A implies he got away with it or something akin to that… He also says that the not guilty verdict was bcos the charges couldn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt but that isn't how it works, they only had to prove it more likely he done it then didn't – a LOT less burden of proof was needed for a guilty verdict but the FA weren't even close to that so it shows a real lack of evidence…. So if you are going to make insinuations about people then least be sure to have the basic facts correct…
Typical FA when they don't get their own way they go after you and will most likely put pressure on the ref's to go after him.