Jason Cundy and Scott Minto review England’s defeat to Iceland.
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The problem of England is that they always wanted to go forward, they wanted to do it fast and efficiently.
They donโt go sideways or backwards first in order to create the perfect situation to go forward. They think that doing more is inefficient. They wanted to get forward as quick as possible.
As a result, they never get the ball forward in a perfect situation. Because they never create such situations.
If the opponentโs defence is being dragged wide open, then making a pass becomes easy, and even a half decent pass would turn into a great chance.
If the opponent defence is still in good shape, itโs difficult to make a pass, and even if you make a great pass, it wonโt turn into a half decent chance.
England always go forward against a defence that is still in good shape. They never think of going sideways and backwards to breakdown the defence first.
Grealish Palmer(F9) Eze
Maddison Bellingham Foden
RicoLewis(IFB) Stones White Trent(IFB)
Ramsdale
On the bench, Pickford Pope Shaw Colwill Guehi JoeGomez Mainoo TommyDoyle Elliot SmithRowe Saka OmariHutchinson Bowen Sancho Sterling
Manager, someone who has previously played under or worked with Pep. Ex Spanish player and LaMasia graduates are preferable.
Tactics, 09-12 Barcelona, 17-20 ManCity, tiki taka.
Bellingham is the closest player England have in terms of matching the Busquets skill set. He has played number 6 for Dortmund at times and also in youth football. Even if you donโt consider him a number 6, he has to be the one because no other players can do the Busquets job as good as he would. Foden, Palmer and Maddison canโt quite do that.
Palmer can play the false 9 role like Fabregas did.
RicoLewis and Trent can be the Zinchenko and Cancelo.
Eze and Grealish are probably their most tricky wingers if you want some of Ronaldinho/Neymar magic in your team.
Ramsdale, White and Stones are their most tiki taka capable GK and CBs.
Was Trentโs pass any better than the one from Rashford to Garnacho during the day cup final?
Kane is the biggest problem, and by that I mean Southgate not having the balls to tell Kane to stay up front.
Drops far too deep
Foden is the problem.. its not Pep system where he doesn't have any defensive responsibilities. Palmer can't defend too.
He absolutely should play deeper. Heโs big and strong and needs to be there for the good of the team. Let Foden play up top.
If Cundy was the manager of England or any PL club then losing and relegation is a normality because he seems like still can't spot England weakness against Iceland which is the not functioning number 10 role played by Foden.
English media blaming Saka who played for 25 mins๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ bunch of brexit voting clownssss
None of your players are good. They are all system players. Bellingham is your best player by farrr as he is the only person that can play in any system. This shows why no English manager has won a prem and you import everything good about you because the ball iq in this country is the worst I've ever seen.
The punditry is weak because you want to force fit Foden into the first 11 … with this mentality England will not win anything , play players in their best positions
How about the best striker of all time Harry Kane actually plays good in the England Jersey.
Trent is basically beckham, a champions league/premiear league winner, and already has 70 assists at 25. Use trent as an inverted RB and play Stones and Walker as CBs. Rice and Bellingham as a dou Bellingham in a double pivit with Foden as the 10. Jude moves up when Trent inverts crezting a box. Saka stays wide for wdith. Gordon forbpa e (also to receive long balls from Trent)
The only players that played well against Iceland was Trent and Kobbie Mainoo.
foden was awful against iceland
English media obsessing over a pass by TAA in a friendly…then overlooking England lost a friendly.
Cannot wait for the post-mortem after England are knocked out…again.
Dunk is absolutely shocking
You need to watch รdegaard 's pass to Haaland against Denmark. Now that's a pass!
I'm glad Jason has actually given a practical example of how difficult it really is to break down these low blocks. You get so many clown fans who think it should never be that difficult to break down but in the world of football reality – it really is. It's not just about finding a way. It's about a mistake or a perfect cross that lands in the perfect space with a player who produces a perfect strike. There's nothing the manager can do about that.
Defo Branthwaite over Dunk. Grealish should have gone over Gordon aswell. Gordon is too raw and inexperienced. Runs around a lot with no end result.
Bellingham would be the best player on the pitch no matter where he plays, probably better than pickford in goal too, so playing too far forward i think you lose so much of his ability, i want to see him everywhere involved in everything, he can go past someone in midfield and change the whole picture
Bellingham plays in the 10, foden left, Trent and rice behind in a double pivot. You need Trent in this team, the whole he canโt play there is ridiculous. Literally been our best player in the last few games, proved he needs to start.
Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia before winning the World Cup. Spain to Switzerland 2010 first game. Portugal were TERRIBLE in the group stage in 2016. People need to relax. We live in a hyper reactive society. Was it acceptable to lose at home to Iceland? No.But it will have little bearing on the tournament. The only warning signs were how easily they countered at times.
If you plan to protect the defence you wont win, fear will take over, as it did against Italy, defend and attack as a team and play more to your strengths
Why does Cundy (like a lot of Chelsea fans) hate Trent for England?
Phil Foden is so overrated in international football. Done nothing and has had plenty of chances. To change people into positions that are not their preferred is not warranted just to fit Foden.
Bellingham should be in the middle of Trent and Rice with Rice playing the holding role? ๐ค
geezers an absolute muppet…Appointing a manager to a national side whos experience to date prior was getting a premier league side relegated is suicidal…It doesn;t matter what players a manager has at their disposal they have to be coached and Emery has proven this by getting villa champions league with practically the same team that gerrard nearly got relegated…Counting down the days now awaiting for England to get knocked out so we can finally get rid of this clown…Roll on to the world cup
This Bellingham geezer will be found out during the Euro's…overrated hype!
Thats the 2nd time someone has said that Bellingham looked tired in these friendlies. These fuckers do not watch the games, the kid hasnโt even pulled up to camp yet
England coach tries to play players in positions where they play at club level it will never work. Play them in their specific positions.
I'm just waiting for the England debacle at Euro 2024 and its fallout. I think England will not even top the group and will get knocked out in the last 16. Why? The pressure of expectations will overwhelm this team.
Look at how many people can score in that team ! So play your best deep so they can score and put pressure on!
Playing Bellingham deeper would putto much pressure on Declan Rice because quite simply he doesnโt work hard enough off the ball. I like Jude Bellingham and he is going to be a top player but not as a number 8 when playing only one defensive minded midfielder in the team.
Bellingham looks tired? He needs surgery on his shoulder. He shouldn't be playing this tournament.
The Iceland game was crying out for Wharton with his progressive passing, I was pulling my hair out watching 90 mins of sideways passing yet again, it doesnโt matter how inexperienced he is, he is the only type of player we have who takes the ball off the defenders on the half turn and instantly passes forward, he knows what he is going to do before heโs received the ball.
This would allow Rice to play his Arsenal role and press.
If we had a decent no9 kane would be the perfect 10 sheringham esc
Southgate should of been sacked when Italy beat us but fa wants a yes man and now look what iceland beat us it don't mater if it's is a friendly england team is worth 1.3 billion and he makes them look like Stoke no disrepect but show you why people were calling for his head 4 years ago ๐ข
Wasnt that long ago people wanted dunk in….cant win
Bellingham has been arguably the best player in Europe playing for the champions of Europe as a number 10. For me he should be England's 10 too.
All talk on defence…we CANT BREAK DOWN a LOW BLOCK…Iceland. That's a problem. He needs to be coaching them on this, because in group stages atleast this will be a common theme.
We aren't stupid,we've all watched football and played to levels. We know it's not easy to break a well drilled organized side,if you've just taken over,trying to work out your system,tactics, formation etc. Southgates been in the job nearly 9 years, the Iceland team manager,it was his first game in charge!! Who you trying to kid,stop dumping and say it how it is. As two ex professionals you know as well as we do Southgate is the issue!
WE ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ really donโt learn from our mistakes.
PLAY YOUR BEST PLAYER BELLINGHAM in the 10! His our talisman itโs not foden ๐
Only Kevin De Bryne can do that ๐๐๐๐๐ like Bruno Fernandes doesnโt exist
Just play Gallagher and Rice Holding and Bellingham Attacking CM. Foden left, Kane, Saka right. That's it
English media have to be intentional with this, they waited for few days to pass & they are back to the propaganda that Foden as a 10 & Bellingham must be sacrificed cause Rice on his own is not enough defensively(they don't want to admit it) & so Bellingham has to be sacrificed instead of lesser players like Foden. No wonder England are so mediocre.