Danny Kelly, Danny Murphy & Darren Lewis discuss Gareth Southgate’s England squad selection.

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28 Comments

  1. It’s like every walk of life, if your face does’nt fit regardless of talent. Maybe Ward Prowse is not a yes man. As for Phillips he’s average at best and that’s coming from somebody who has supported Leeds Utd for sixty years.

  2. New title for this videio:

    "Three men who have never managed, let alone never managed a national team, are adament about what the manager of the national team should do"

  3. I don't think you get to know much about these 'fringe' players in 1 or 2 games for England. We see them play for their clubs week in week out, what difference does it make seeing them play for England for 2 games against Malta and N.Macedonia. It makes no difference. If they play well, then they are unlikely to get in ahead of Saka, Foden, Rice, Bellingham, Kane. The main position we are unsure of is possibly the centre backs…. Stones keeps getting injured and Maguire is dodgy, but we know Southgate will choose those 2. We need to work out who our 3rd and 4th centre backs should be – that's about it.

  4. Ok we know Southgate is a reservist. I think at the end of his tenure as England Manager especially if he doesn’t win anything his legacy will always be that he had one of the greatest potential in an England squad but managed to ā€œsnatch defeat in the jaws of victoryā€ as Simon would say. ( Even though I think the greatest potential in an England squad to win nothing is 2010 World Cup and Euro 96 in my opinion. 1990 had a decent coach but he also messed by not using John Barnes when he needed to. I still agonise about that . John Barnes comes in at the last minute two crosses in one resulted in a goal one Lineker messed up .I still don’t know how….) Anyway ,But more than those that he was the manager who went against his own principles on achieving power. The so called bad leaders code. Point in quote is that he himself said while laying out his manifesto at the beginning of his tenure . Keep in mind no one pressured him into offering this he volunteered the information wilfully so we can hold him to it.),That he will always choose his squad from form (merit) rather than reputation. He himself offered this as part of his manifesto . These were His principles and he has totally gone against it. I wonder how for example James Ward Prowse must feel knowing that no matter what he does, no matter how he performs for his club ,Calvin Phillips is always getting on the plane ahead of him. And the saddest thing for me is that Gareth himself was a former player who if that had happened to him would be absolutely livid. He has destroyed his legacy.
    The saddest thing is that to get anyone creative or on form into his squads has always required pressure public pressure. That’s just not only to introduce them to the team but also to reintegrate them into the squad. It had to take public pressure to get Foden, Grealish, Maddison, Saka in and now even though the public can see that Sterling and James Ward Prowse deserve on merit to be on the squad ,Southgate against his original principles is standing in the way. Yes we know he is trying to nature that club feel in the national team but sure not at the expense of going into tournaments with the best team available to us. This is the basis of the fact Southgate that people are calling him incompetent. He has lost the respect of the authentic fans and slowly by slowly the respect in the players eyes are eroding well. Foreigners? They are just pointing at us and laughing. Unfortunately it might have to take some player doing something drastic like saying they are making themselves unavailable for England for Southgate and England while he is in post for us as English fans to wake up from this false reverie.(yes we are complicit in this as we have not called him out on it as long as he is getting us ā€œalmostā€ successful events) . Yes we lost one great potential at the top of his game at the time in Jamie Vardy. He made that statement on retirement (Yes Jamie some of us got the message) .we know Kane came into that world cup totally exhausted after playing almost every game for Tottenham yet Vardy was fresh. I still hold that if Vardy had been given minutes in that semi final ,we would have gone through. Every one could see that Kane was just walking about in the second half and even though we had a more than capable assistant in Vardy at the top of his game we still dithered to the abysmal finish. I have seen enough world cups to know that sometimes it’s not always the person you expect who comes through during a tournament. Schillachi, Rossi, Roger Milla and Julian Alvarez at the last World Cup are good examples who people who exceeded expectations when the main man was misfiring. Or in this case exhausted. I’m sure Kane would have come back reinvigorated and fired up for the final.probably even more motivated if he faced competition if Vardy had got us into that final .A good coach will recognise this and be ready to adapt and use it.
    The amazing thing is there are still people out there who will want to convince us that he is the best person for the job (Pearce ) Some we know is mainly because he is their personal friend ,Yet deep down they know they have been settling for good rather than the best. (I wonder when true patriotism overrides friendship and says enough is enough) Hey I’m not knocking Pearce Patriotism for one second he has proved it with blood and sweat. I’m just saying I’ve should not be putting them in a position where they have to make that decision . There are people who are paid to make the decisions and they are not. At least Pearce and some of his mates have a reason. (It’s not uncommon by the way we saw how his pundit mates at Man United backed Solkjaer to the end)
    Yes I would love to see Southgate’s legacy. He could of course claim at the end of his tenure that his improvised implemented policy managed the team to reach the Euros final and the World Cup Semi final and Quater final .This is good. But we have seen what the best in Serena wiegman can turn the ā€œalmostā€ into winners. We know we should have won the Euros after going one nil ahead on home soil with a team far superior to the Italians. We know with the wealth in talent we should have given the French a real run for their money at the last World Cup. We know with the squad we had in Russia , we should have definitely made the final again going ahead against Croatia. What is the weakest link in all those squads
    Gareth Southgate
    The moment we stop putting up with good and going for the best we will realise the true potential of this team. We did it with Phillip Neville in the women’s team we should do it with the men as well.
    Ask yourself we have the best league in the world our youth teams are winning world tournaments. Why isn’t this translating into the main team.
    The answer is apparent as the song say ā€œshout it all outā€

  5. We can talk about as much as we want but it’s Southgate we already knows what he will do. I can already pick his 11

  6. Everyone on talkSPORT was creaming themselves when Southgate eventually decided to stay on after the World Cup. England will NOT win the Euros under him. How will it be successfull if we reach the semi’s or final etc? Joke

  7. Through the years England managers have picked on past performances, mates and the like.

    It seems incredible Steve Bruce was never capped.

    Look at Mark Noble…. 47 apps for England U16, 17, 18, 19 and U21’s captaining sides at all levels. Never got a solitary full cap, that he deserved through ability and form many times. Seems odd he was recognised at the five tiers below, captained the 18’s and 21’s but managers bottled it and he never got the one he deserved.
    Getting to UEFA U19 & U21 finals. Solid midfielder. Scored a few and leadership qualities abound. Supreme penalty taker… I mean when did England ever need pens!?

    ā€œIn 2020, Noble was rated as the player with the second highest conversion rate for penalty kicks in the world over the last 20 years. His 90.5% conversion rate was only beaten by Robert Lewandowski's rate of 91.1%ā€

  8. Would love to find out what happened with Ben White. Been one of the best England defenders for the last 2 years but doesn’t get a sniff, something bad obviously kicked off in Qatar

  9. How do you expect Southgate who is so myopic make such a decision…..??? DO NOT TELL me Phillips will be picked in midfield before TAA….. ARE YOU SERIOUS….

  10. some say Southgate picks fairly based on current form but lets not forget there was a time McGuire didn't even step foot on the pitch for weeks/months yet he was picked!

  11. Southgate is an amateur manager with an amateur mentality. He will never win a tournament with this talented group of players, because he doesn't have the knowledge or the talent. He's a tactical dunce.

  12. Henderson Phillips Maguire rashford guehi should be out,even grealish hasn’t been great.

    In the squad should be pope longstaff burn Gordon Sterling ward prowse and palmer which I no he’s now been called up, the problem is not all of the players are always on form so if Southgate picks players who are only on form it means every tournament his team will be different and obviously they need to build chemistry together to work as a team to me, even though I am a bit biased because I’m a Newcastle fan my team would be this
    Nick pope
    James
    Burn
    Stones
    Tripper
    Rice
    Bellingham
    Wardprowse
    Gordon
    Kane
    Foden
    Then you got Walker Maddison Wilson Watkins Sterling palmer Gallagher Colwill shaw chilwell and get Ben white back and rashford once he gets back on form,so many options,we should be winning the euros

  13. Southgate will never make changes like that because he is far too loyal to the guys who have been in there the past 4 or so years….and lets be honest most of them now have been in there for a long time now. He doesn't want to give himself headaches having to drop people like Phillips, Henderson Maguire etc etc….Southgate as manager is criminal! We win purely because of the talent we have not the flipping manager!!!

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