
It's been 25 days since I last posted this (see here), the numbers haven't changed too much in terms of final points tally v qualification, here's a recap of what's happened since:
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As expected, we didn't come back against Man City (at the time of the last post we were already 2 down going into the away leg) and are out of the EFL Cup
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We beat Qarabag, perhaps also as expected, but got a fairly favourable draw for the following rounds, boosting our chances overall of qualification via winning it
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We picked up 3 points from 4 league games, effectively ending our hopes of Champions League qualification via the league – it's been difficult to know which teams to cheer for in other games this season with it being so open so far, but after today it's become clear that if we want Europa we mainly need Brentford and Chelsea (and to a lesser extent Fulham) to drop points
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We got past Villa in the FA Cup, but all the big boys won as well and then we were drawn against one of them, so we're actually less favoured to win it now, but at least it's good for the number of places falling to next best in the league
There's one interesting permutation which is that if a team wins the Champions/Europa league, and finishes exactly fifth, then the additional UCL place that goes to the Premier League because of European performance will fall to 6th. This doesn't work if they finish in the top 4, has to be 5th. Right now, I make the chances of that happening surprisingly high, about 9.1%. Most of that comes from Villa (6.7%), most of the rest split between Liverpool and Chelsea. Note that even if we don't then come 6th, it can still benefit us, as Europa places subsequently get pushed down.
Note this was generated before today's final game (Leeds v Man City), even if I don't get round to posting it until after it ends.
by Deviceing
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We don’t need any points. We’ll simply win the Champions League
Europe for next season is officially over. Just stop thinking about it.
It’s over
Forget it
We aren’t getting there via the league and that’s fine. We aren’t going down either, so we can go all in in the cups.
It worked for Tottenham last season…
With this form we are closer to religation than europe.
It’s over mate you’ll be much happier once you accept it.
There is no point to the season. Get rid of Howe.
“There’s one interesting permutation which is that if a team wins the Champions/Europa league, and finishes exactly fifth, then the additional UCL place that goes to the Premier League because of European performance will fall to 6th.”
Have you got a source for this?
I’ll be honest CL has gone (even 6th), Europa an outside possibility, Conference league doable.
Just need to stop conceding!
Just go out and enjoy the rest of your night mate. Sitting here making excel sheets about our chances of getting Europe when we can’t (and won’t) even string 3 league wins together ffs, we’ve been absolutely gash all season, we’re not just going to turn around a corner in March
Forget this. Just calculate points needed for mid table cos that where we at!!
We are in for either the champions league or the FA Cup. I would happily finish 17th for either.
Fuvk the league and up the mags!
Just enjoy what we have against Barcelona coming up and hope we can finish strong at the end of the season