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    First Things First | Nick: “What can Josh Allen do to surpass Patrick Mahomes as MVP?”



    First Things First | Nick: “What can Josh Allen do to surpass Patrick Mahomes as MVP?”

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    1. 711bogdan on

      Are we just going to forget that Allen came into a terrible situation where Mahomes came into a great situation? Look at who Allen was throwing to his first 2 years.

    3. Robert Cherryman on

      This entire discussion ignores that Allen was a late bloomer that also started on a very mediocre team whereas Mahomes got Andy Reid and a playoff caliber team from day 1. Zero people would argue that of both careers ended today Mahomes is way more impressive. We are talking about NOW. Since 2020, Allen is a very good rival to Mahomes and at times has looked even better

    5. Life's a Game and Aryans Won the Championship on

      J.Allen wasn't gifted Andy reid, Kareem hunt, Kelce and T.Hill. mahomes is a system qb and gets all his stats from speedster receiver's YAC and HOF Te Kelce. Facts! Let' s not act like he's threading the needle 40+ yards downfield for completions and td's like J.Allen, J.Burrows and J.Hurts. Andy Reid at one time had garbage azz alex smith in the Mvp conversation. Nuff Said

    14. Age of Reason on

      Allen is taller, stronger, heavier, can run over and around people, and has JUST as big, IF not a BIGGER arm than Mahomes. Let's watch their careers unfold, and we'll talk about it in 10 years. Josh Allen will be remembered as MUCH better than Mahomes.

    16. Joshua Jones on

      For the people who got all these excuses on mahomes greatness
      Andy reid had 0 super bowls before mahomes got there and a neagtive playoff record 😭😭😭 tyreek hill had 1100 yards the season before mahomes got there kelce was a all pro before mahomes got there oh and last thing mr alex smith had tyreek hill kelce and andy reid why couldn’t he win a super bowl or mvp or throw for 50 tds?

    17. Raul Scott on

      So Many times……analysts overlook so MUCH. Allen did Not have the same type of teammates in the beginning. I feel sorry for Nick when his Chiefs get dropped! His narrative is going to get old. Bizarre media…..He is a part of the bizzare Media!!!!!

    18. Adam Ciacelli on

      No one EVER talks about the HoF TE Maholmes has… Alex Smith had this team in the playoffs before Maholmes got there… Maholmes doesn’t do this on the jets.

    20. CJB 33 on

      Now just look at the last three years (removing Allen's rookie year) and look at totals instead of just passing… The numbers are basically identical.

    23. Johnnie Gamble Jr. on

      I just don't understand how their grading system works so because borough made it to the super bowl he supposed to be better than Josh Allen and Patrick mahomes. But the fact that Josh Allen has had a better playoff than any quarterback in history doesn't count the fact that my homes and Josh Allen has better stats and better numbers doesn't matter because Joe burrow made it to the super bowl because of some very bad officiating and all three of us playoff games, a phantom whistle, a legal formation and a blown time out is what got Joe borough to the super bowl! Hell even this year he's not doing the numbers. Patrick mahomes or Josh Allen is doing and Josh Allen's been in the slump for three or four games now

    24. Eli-Elite on

      Everybody that’s pretending Mahomes has a juggernaut offense right are the same people in the off season who claimed they would miss the playoffs or be a wildcard after Tyreek Hill left. Supporting cast includes defense and Josh Allen can win inspire of fumbles and interceptions. Mahomes doesn’t have that luxury

    26. dumontgo on

      I'd rather have Burrow or Allen. Mahomes style is nothing more than glorified backyard football. Its won't sustainable when age slows his scrambling down.

    27. NYSam_OP KOF98UMOL on

      I will make it simple for Nick, what is the state of both players if we switched teams ??!?!
      I do believe that Allen would be at least a 3 times super bowl champ by now, while Mahomeboy will be struggling to reach 2nd round with Buffalo !!!
      Josh allen went into the worst franchise ive seen, played bad, then transformed himself and the team around into the number 1 in the division, over taking Bill Belichik's patriots, while mahomeboy fell into the lab of the 2nd best coach of the league with tons of talent around him !!! Mahomeboy deserves all the credit for what he did !!! Allen deserve the same too imo and im a pats fan !! And wish we had something close to them in the QB position

    29. Rye_Station on

      People are so mad at pat because he's beating their favorite teams. these comment sections are always hilarious and they know for a fact pat is on a whole another level than any other quarterback they just hate saying it so they come to the comment section to try to get people to believe that Patrick Mahone isn't the greatest nice try everybody

    33. Heriberto Garza on

      Mahomes is the best qb and yes Josh is behind in all categories. But Josh has only ascended to the top. Alex Smith was going to the playoffs with the chiefs. Mahomes jumped into a better situation than the situation Josh inherited. Josh Allen was raw going into the league. U can't compare Josh Allen of 3 years ago to mahomes. Dak Prescott inherited a good situation and looked amazing. Doesn't mean was elite. Josh Allen talent today is on mahomes level. That's why there theface of the league.
      If u go off talent
      Josh can run through u,around u, over u, throw is 80 yards, can read defense s, throw cross body 50 yards. He's only getting better. Just need to clean up mistakes or else they would have won dolphns, Vikings, and jets.

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