Check out KetoneAid: https://shop.ketoneaid.com
Use code “Butterfly” for 15% off until the end of the Tour de France
FasCat Coaching:
Get your First Month Free on the new FasCat Coaching app – with NO credit card required!
https://openmylink.in/BBjfZ
Lupine Lights: https://www.lupinenorthamerica.com
Use code “lupinelights24” for a 24% discount on all Lupine Lights
Merchandise, event info, and more: https://hornercyclingfoundation.com
Arma Products: https://armasport.com
Use code “horner20” at checkout
Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/chrishorner
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/hornerakg
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hornerakg
Filmed and edited by Garrett Horner
Garrett’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garrett.horner
Garrett’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@garrett.horner?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
Garrett’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFh0qOM-Z5R-wQNqR3ydWyQ
44 Comments
Pog needs to switch to a more defensive strategy at this point and chill on the big, long range attacks. Jonas proved he is fully recovered and in top form. Jonas lacks the team he had last year but still has the fitness to make it happen. Jonas typically improve in the 3rd week and Pog must be smarter with how he allocates his energy. His time advantage over Jonas could easily be erased in one bad day in the high mountains.
the only difference, between TP toying with the adversaries at the Giro and here at the Tour, is JV.
This stage showed that on long climbs, JV could pull out an upset. Hopefully
I'm just not into TJ and B.B. in the studio. Bring back Horner and Christian V.d.V to the NBC studio. Christian is great on the bike, but he's great everywhere.
This was an epic stage! I was looming forward to a little bit more analysis besides the recap.
Why did Pogi leave his teammates at that moment? He broke the number 1 rule… and than: the reason for his loss. Is it calories, is it build up fatigue?
Please enlighten us Chris!
Now this is racing !!!! Jonas was bound and determined to beat Tadej on the sprint !!! As far as strong teams goes , UAE is super strong but Visma is hanging there like rusty nail ! This may all come down to the last stage ,the individual time trail !
Personally I think Pog is burning way too many matches. I think he'll pay the price in the 3rd week. There was no need for him to attack today. All he has to do is cover the attacks!
So what would you have done differently if you were Pogačar?
(Honest question)
Why is this eerily reminding me of last year when Tadej eventually cracked on stage 17? Plus having the fatigue of the Giro in him as well.
Hi Chris!
I was expecting you to give a big time knucklehead award to uae today. The way they rode before Tadej went: Ayuso hiding further back, then coming to the front, literally only pulling 10s before Yates took over and made the big selection. Essentially though, without Ayuso and Almeida doing their job. Almeida somewhat kept his own GC time alive but Ayuso did similar non-sense to what happened on stage 4.
Looking at Jonas’ shape and his team I’m now wondering wether UAE should just ride a bit more defensively in the high mountains: use the team, don’t make the race super hard, let other people take over or attack and then cover with their super climbers team rather than trying to attack so aggressively. They are not making the best use of their team as it is. Use their numbers and then attack late and explosively, it’s what he does best. Jonas will need to try to attack with longer range on big climbs and doesn’t have the climbers team to support him or push the tempo. I doubt they will do this though: Tadej loves the aggressive style too much. What do you think?
I'm going to listen, but if you call Roglic a knucklehead I think I'm going to break down crying
Absolutely, Tadej doesn't need "big balls" he neeeds to take a leaf out of the Lemond playbook and sit sit sit he is in yellow, its up to Jonas to get "big balls" and take it off him
Pogi should choose his battles, UAE should take a page out of the Visma-Lease A bike handbook and wait and see for Jonas to attack. In addition, just keep grabbing those bonus seconds. They clearly have the better team.
We still have to see how Jonas does on higher-altitude climbs. Jonas had problems with his lungs after his crash, let's see how his lungs take in air at higher altitudes when air is less available. We already saw these problems on the col du Galibier, but let's see if he recovered.
Remco apparently had no balls this stage – I don't see Vingegaard complaining about Remco's defensive riding tho!
We've had some of the best stages ever in this year's Tour!
I can't remember a single stage in the tour where Tadej has successfully attacked Jonas from far out in the mountains and gained more than 30 seconds. Jonas, on the other hand…
Now it's confirmed that Jonas is back. He closed that gap on Tadej and won the stage. So, I guess Jonas replied to Remco. "Where are your balls now?"😂
Awesome racing. It’s easy to forget Pogacar rode the Giro. It could come back to haunt him later in the tour.
Pogačar knows this is not the Giro, and that Vingegaard has come out of his bed. So we will see a kind of Woke-gačar i suppose. This is no political statement.
@ChrisHorner
You where a renowned bike handler with your gutter running, do tour riders practice bunny hops and other moves to avoid stuff?
Finally someone that gives credit to Jonas and not obsessed with Poga and UAE like Bruneyl and Armstrong in their shows)
very good review and analysis thank you
I like Remco – but he is a bit of a bully
Lucky us to watch such an animated Tour de France so far. We can all comment about good/bad tactics after the race but Pogacar did what he did and now he knows how good Vingegaard is this year. Pogacar still has over a minute on Vinegaard. Pogacar is an exciting and aggressive rider who will now switch to being defensive. Thanks for the highlight recap Chris.
I think Roglic is crushing too much for a pro rider. Its costing him time in GC.
The “Big Balls” comment did not age well or long.
What's your take on crank length? As far as I can tell Jonas is on 172.5 and Tadej on 165, and they are similar heights. On a close sprint like this stage, does this really factor in?
REMCO YOU BUM YOU DON"T HAVE HALF THE HEART OF JONAS!!! TRUE CHAMPION!!!
It's been fun to watch but it looks like Pogi is racing for #2 spot on the podium again. If UAE sent Almeida up the road and gained a couple mins on GC, it would force Remco, Roglic and Vingo to work much harder since they don't have strong teams this year and Pogi could still finish them off. At this rate, UAE are killing themselves for no reason.
For all the hype about how great Pogi is, perhaps the GOAT. Get real. He's not even close to Merckx. Merckx won 525 races of the 1585 he entered for a win percentage of 33%. Merckx won 5 Tour de France (34 stages), 5 Giros (25 stages), 1 Vuelta (6 stages), 7 Milan-San Remo, 3 Paris-Roubaix, 5 Liège-Bastogne-Liège, 2 Tour of Flanders, 2 Lombardias, and 3 World Championships. Can there be any doubt … Eddy Merckx is the GOAT and nobody is even close to walking in his shadow.
Pogis tactics is questionable. I think he burns too many matches attacking vigorously, while Jonas can catch up with a moderated effort. Pogi should suck JV's wheel and only sprint for bonus seconds. Let JV and his team do the work.
Sorry, Chris, Jonas had to go extremely deep with Roglic's help to catch Tadeh. And it did damage to his conditioning. I predict he cracks hard on Saturday or Sunday.
Jonas destroyed the sport. Now you don't even need to train. Everything is 100% about chemistry.
Chris, I write a daily stage report for my youth cycling club in Ann Arbor. Yesterday I explained that if you crash and the 3-kilometer rule applies, "riders affected by an incident must immediately make themselves known to a commissaire by raising their arm and reporting to a commissaire once they have crossed the finish line" (Article 20 of the Tour de France regulations). I often see that in sprint stages, riders who arrive in groups, some of them have crashed and raise their arm, others who just happened to have been dropped earlier and they don't raise their hands. Primož Roglič never raised his hand but apparently nobody cared. Do you have experience as a rider, did you follow this rule, ignore it, or did it not exist?
I just came by shove this one in Remco's face. Close your damn mouth kid and engage your f***ing brain. This is what class versus trash looks like. At least just be quiet going forward and learn your lesson and oh, I don't know…maybe be a mature adult and apologize? Just a thought.
Chris Horner on amazing form with the race summary!
Loved the part about Tratnik looking back at wout, sorry buddy, see ya!
Pogacar is dumb as a rock. His mindset is that of a hammer where every problem is a nail. Because of his immense talent this “strategy”works most of the time except for the Tour where he is constantly outwitted by an equally talented competitor. He of course can still win but just imagine if Jonas didn’t have his accident and Sepp didn’t get sick. The race would be very different. Remco is also subject to Pogacaritis
Was this just Pogs bad day? If it is and he only lost 1 second then it is a good thing.
Sovražim Vinske mušice🤬😶🌫️😡
I think Jonas gained more than a second after that………….
In the end Pogi lost 1 second on 3rd place, while gaining 25 sec on 2nd place. No more, no less. The Tour is FAR from won, in either direction at this point.
Today's victory of course was a HUGE morale win for JV. And yet his huge effort today saw him again 1 second. While it showed his form is great without anymore doubts about his recovery, I think he has a very hard race ahead of him to gain Yellow. If UAE use their super team on the big mountains correctly (and with some damn common sense) to shield Pogi, there is no way that JV could simply ride all of Team UAE including the yellow jersey off his wheel alone. And we know he doesn't have the team to help him do it either! Heck, even if teamed up with Rog & Remco AND their combined mountain domestiques (??? Whose left for them again) they couldn't form a Sky train big enough to put pressure on 4-5 UAE guys.
So sure Jonus showed a huge heart today…and showed he is a true Legend of the TDF! But if the UAE team management can convince Pogi to ride like that legend … I.e use his team to follow only JVs wheel … Then I think he wins pretty easy. No way JV takes a minute on the last TT on Pogi's home roads.
Chris – just curious. It don't look like jhonas just made it to the finish line, he was looking at if he was ready for another uncategorised climb in front after 211km in leg.
When you compare it with Tadej injury in 2023 and similar stage midway both were neck to neck.
It was the 3rd week where Tadej went down badly.
Do you see jhonas going to have the same fate ?
What I see in stage 11 jhonas looks to be in different level ! Or is it he is just burning the second match stick for this year and looking good. Is it going to change as he burns more matches ?
As a pro rider what happens when there is an injury and you don't train much ? How endurance, VO2 max , CTL in legs take a hit without training ?
Chris, love your commentary in years past. Not going to subscribe to Peacock to watch tour this year. Just my personal preference. I think if they want to get younger kids interested in cycling, they should do more here in the U.S. Just seems to me they are missing out on an opportunity to expand the culture of cycling. It's too bad, as it's a great sport.
This stage made the Tour de France so exciting. Jonas, who took the tour over Tadej the last 2 years, just proved that he's got his number once again with a magnificent finish. Can't wait for the rest of the Tour. Wish I was there..