The Futbol Americas duo of Sebastian Salazar and Herculez Gomez react to former LAFC star Gareth Bale’s comments on when it comes to losing in the Major League Soccer.

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  1. MLS is a kind of fraud; i.e., an exhibition league impersonating athletic competition. Bale is right. Games are meaningless, defenders aren't exerting themselves because there are no negative consequences.

    The league is structurally and permanently flawed by guarantees made to prospective owners in order to fuel frenetic expansion. They will never give it up. PRO/REL can never come to the US until MLS folds.

  2. Yes he is there is no relegation and there is playoffs so you can lose just enough games and still maybe win a championship. Also there too many trophy's you can win like the Canadian cup, cascadia cup there is even a texas one now and all qualify you for concacaf champions league

  3. Let's be honest. The fans in Europe are absolutely toxic. Some of the things that go on over there are completely out of control. 😂

  4. The MLS don't have standards as high as Real Madrid, hence is why many footballers go there when coming up to retirement

  5. If Real Madrid lose 3 games in a row in La liga no matter the situation … the manager is in the hot seat for his job.

    If the top team in the MLS standing loses 3 games in a row . They are still in the playoff seeding and they just “need to get hot” around playoff time to win the MLS Cup.

    The stakes are a lot higher in a 38 game season with champions league added in than a MLS playoff format that involves 18 of the 29 teams.

    Losing a game in a regular season in MLS is not equivalent of losing a game in a top European league where every point matters.

  6. In a vacuum he's sort of right but plenty of teams in European football are just kinda in survival mode. Doing enough to stay up but not really doing anything significant competitively either. In most of the leagues it's the same teams year in year out winning the leagues.

  7. yo, this comment section completely lost the plot. the point isn't about MLS having more acceptance to defeat due to no pro/rel, (although that is a valid reason, just not the main one Bale is conveying), the point is that the club environments from fans reacting to losses are not as hard and pressuring towards the players as compared to their European counterparts. (Which is why Herc is saying it's not as 'Toxic' playing for LAFC compared to Real Madrid. There IS pressure, but not at the level of a big club in Spain.)

    Also, why are people using Real Madrid's pressure environment as an example to advocate for Pro/Rel? Real Madrid has never been relegated, they have never had to worry about relegation. Their pressure is only focused on winning Trophies.

  8. Not surprised at Bale saying that. There isn’t the passion and professionalism there like in other places like Spain, England, Italy, etc. For me, I’d add promotion and relegation. The stakes would be raised and you’d get great narratives from it.

  9. Pro/Rel cannot work as there's not a long lasting soccer pyramid with well established teams in the different leagues currently.

    Also no one mentions how pro/rel never really affects the same teams that wins the titles. 😊

  10. My response to that would be name me one successful team on the world stage that doesn't have toxic elements in its fanbase?

    Heck name my anything that super popular that doesn't have toxic fanbases? It comes with the territory of being super popular. The reason MLS doesn't have that toxicity yet is bc its not as popular yet.

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