Chris Simms tells Mike Florio why Joe Burrow beat out Josh Allen for the No. 2 slot on the Top 40 QB Countdown, given his mental toughness in the biggest moments and leadership qualities. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #JoeBurrow
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Tell your show producer to download from a better source. Your shit show is the only place I've seen that video with bad audio.
Yeah. The lack of overhead mics in their press room is a mystery. Does anyone know why they haven't made that investment?
Burrow has so much more talent around him than Allen… if josh is on the bengals they would have already won a Super Bowl or 2
Burrow's my favorite NFL QB. If I were starting a franchise, he or Mahomes would be my first pick.
I think it’s the audio that you all got! I’ve seen the interview on other channels and it was just fine! 😂😂
You damn right Joe Burrow wouldn’t throw 5 yards short on 4th down. He threw it 25 yards to Jamar Chase on 4th and 7 during the AFC Champ game this past year
Allen is the best QB in the NFL…sorry people
Burrow is carried by his defense in the playoffs. Burrow has a running game in the playoffs. Allen doesn't. And yet Allen is still the higher rated playoff QB….
Allen is the only QB in the NFL where if mahomes plays his A+ game Allen can still beat him…. We have already seen it
Only a casual places Allen over Burrow. Just wear a flashing neon sign that says,"I just started watching football yesterday."
Burrow is very good, and I'd rate him above Allen too, but he doesn't actually reach a higher level in the playoffs. He averages just under 2 TD passes a game in the regular season but just 1.3 per game in the playoffs. (In his seven playoff games he's got nine TD passes.) The Bengals have been a strong playoff team these last two years, but that seems to rely mostly on the defense holding the opponent to 19 pts or less; when they do that they're 4-0. In the three times they gave up more than 19 they've lost two of those games by the same score (23-20).
Josh Allen is clearly, I repeat, CLEARLY a better QB than Burrow.
Burrow has the better RB, better WR1, better WR2, better WR3 than Allen. And yet:
2022 PPG:
Bills = 28.4 PPG (#2 in NFL)
Bengals = 26.1 PPG (#7 in NFL)
2022 Total QBR:
Allen = 71.4 QBR (#2 in NFL)
Burrow = 58.7 QBR (#10 in NFL)
So Allen has less around him all across the board than Burrow, but still: 1) Led his offense to more points and 2) Posted a much higher Total QBR.
Debate over: Josh Allen > Joe Burrow.
Done!
I got news for Joe, its going to take more than 1 better season to unthrone Mahomes. It will take 2 SB wins, 3 SB appearances, and 2 MVP's to do that. So basically 3 better seasons will be the minimum to take Mahomes down.
3 reasons I put Burrow over Allen
He's been to back 2 back AFC Championship games
He's been to a super bowl
And despite losing to him he has a better record than Allen against Mahomes
We’ve been yelling at the bengals to give reporters mics for years
Burrow is Brady like just does things right reads defenses prefect throw minimum mistakes can win with less he big in big games
Bills fan. But agree Burrow has best pocket awareness of all QBs, gets ball off very quick and precise.
We really gonna pretend the Bengals defense hasn't carried burrow in the playoffs? We really gonna do that??
I wish Josh Allen could play Daniel Jones and the 49ers rb to get to the super bowl….
Didn't Joe cool throw two critical int in the AFC championship? Hmmm
Joe Burrow reminds me of the very best of John Elway & Dan Marino combined. The man is a joy to watch unless he's playing your team . Bengals have made some VERY bad moves over the years, especially at The Draft. But give them credit, they knew to not ——NOT ! ——-TRADE THAT #1 PICK Teams , especially Miami were offering almost anything to get Burrow ——–Bengals didn't sell. Good on them.——MJL, 76 y/o
These two are my favorite sports talk duo. Authentic, knowledgeable, unfraid to have different opinions, and always respectful towards each other. I'm done with Undisputed. This is my new favorite. Always loved Chris Simms. Career cut too short from injuries.
This is absolutely BS. Allen is the far better QB and is up there with machines. Burrow is mid
Bengals fans are so damn lucky and appreciative to have this guy. We wouldn’t trade him for anyone in the world
Chiefs fan here. It’s simple. Joe burrow was able to get past mahomes in the playoffs and make a SB. Josh Allen gets bullied by mahomes and Burrow in the post season.
I do agree with Simms on a lot of what he’s saying here. To me Burrow is one QB in the modern-day NFL who you could drop into any era and he’d succeed. Fundamentally Joe’s really good, as a passer he’s really good, and he’s obviously a really smart guy. So I could see him playing in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, or 2020s. That’s how long I’ve been watching NFL football. In other words I’m as old as Joe Burrow is good.
I stopped watching the Chiefs ' press conferences for the same reason.
Last year Simms flew around and interviewed some quarterbacks. It was really interesting. But I watched the ones with Josh Allen and Trevor Lawrence. But I also think Simms interviewed Burrow and that was good too. Burrow obviously is a smart guy but he’s pretty grounded too. But hopefully Simms does that again this year. I’d like to see him go out to LA and interview Herbert because I’ve never really seen an interview with him before. (It’s interesting because Simms asks those guys about what grips they like to use, what they’re thinking about during the week, and other things that you’ll hardly ever see interviewers ask about. It’s not “fluff” but it’s actually more QB-type stuff.)
I FREAKING LOVE JOE BURROW!!! He's the guy eating pizza in the middle of a freaking battle, smiling and laughing . I hope he KILLS IT @BURROWHEAD stadium this year!!!
I can't believe Tua was drafted over Joe…CANOOT FREAKLING BELIEVE IT!!!
The main reason Joe > Josh. Josh is erratic. Period
Joe was one penalty away from beating Mahomes 4 straight and two at Burrowhead. Patrick might be "best NFL player" but Joe is best QB.
Florio… look at Burrows stats in the playoffs.
7 career playoff games: 9 TDs; 4 ints; 260 yds a game and has never thrown for a 4th qt. TD.
His numbers are pedestrian and actually go down. Bengals defense has carried them in the playoffs – facts.