For once, I'm not even mad at the team, because they played an heroic performance, even more so than during the game with Inter.

But I'm getting into a place where I don't see a point in watching games anymore, as any form of entertainment is getting overwhelmed by the "external" factors ruining everything.

The team has no political weight and it seems like management has no interested in defending themselves, but more importantly, the players.

Champions League

Last week the referee showed clear bias but the discussion about that got buried by the result and the bad performances of several players. Cabal yellow cards were technically correct, but they completely clashed when compared with the meter used by the referee when not giving disciplinary sanctions to Galatasaray players: we've seen Sallai beating the shit out of Yildiz for a whole time, players allowed to keep wasting time, SPAs not being given yellow cards. The team suffered in silence.

For today's match, they decided they could do even worse. The first yellow given to Kelly was for a foul that had the same intensity of a foul on Thuram that happened literaly 20s earlier. The referee wasn't even giving him a yellow card and kept walking, then suddenly changed his mind and booked him.

But the second yellow is the worse offender: Kelly, always watching the ball, jumps, while in the hair is pushed by the Galatasaray's player with the hand, and then when falling accidentally hit his leg: it's not a foul, it's not a misconduct, it's nothing, but the referee once again felt the need to book him.

What makes everything surreal is what happens next: VAR calls him for a potential straight red card. An ex referee on Italian TV speculated that this was done to go around the protocol not allowing VAR for second yellow card, in order to call the referee to a OFR, show him what happened and allow him to correct this mess before Juve had yet another player sent off because of inept referees.

Somehow, the idiot (no other possible terms to define him) decided for a straight red card. There's no excuse for that, unless you never played any sport, never watched football or are blind. An international referee clearly can't do such a mistake, even more so when watching a replay of what happened, unless he is in bad faith and know he'll pay no consequences for his action.

If you watched Juventus CL games in the past 15 years, you know that it's nothing new, with every year being either soft penalty given against in one leg and a clear penalty not given to Juve in the other, or a red cards, or double yellow cards.

The penalty not given to Douglas Costa against Tottenham, in the years before VAR, with him being tackled right in front of the sight of the goal line referee still makes me wonder if the goal line referees were cardboard figures or just instructed to act that way.

Serie A

Even in Serie A it's the same thing: after what we've seen with Lazio (a clear penalty not given and the interpretation of the offside being changed mid season), and the corrupt mess we've seen with Inter, they "silently protest" and not only they confirm the ban for Kalulu, but who do they send officiating the game against Como?

Doveri, the one that was the IV for the game against Inter, the one that followed Vlahovic to book him for "provoking the crowd", the same crowd that kept calling him a "gypsy", clearly sending a signal of how much they cared about Juve's protests.

And of course, he allowed them to pull the same stunts they did in the first leg: after scoring, they just fouled every attempt of a restart by Juve without getting booked, flopped to the floor and stayed there for minutes on every occasion, wasted time whenever they could. But guess who is the only one that Doveri didn't forget to book? The one that would miss the game against Roma, Locatelli.

Last season we've seen surreal stuff: to name a few, Motta being sent off for being pushed by Vanoli, Conceicao banned for a dive that wasn't a dive, players getting headbutted or elbowed in the face with no punishment, but then several red cards being given to Juve when they decided Roma deserver the CL spot, sometimes even with no clear replay, we've even had two games where the first foul called in favour of Juve was literally in the second half of those games, something that I've never seen before.

Even during the last Allegri season, we've seen a stream of multiple red card worthy bad tackle against Juve players (starting with Berardi) not punished, but then when Milik did the same the red card was correctly shown, and let's not forget the stuff that happened during the Coppa Italia final.

Hopeless

This feels more and more like Formula 1, where for ages now it felt like the teams winning are not the ones with the best pilot, or the best cars, but the ones that are better at lobbying.

Every season we get to a point where Juve completely collapse, and at this point, I don't even blame them: if I were in their shoes, I would feel the same helplessness after losing game after game for stuff that has nothing to do with the sport and is completely out of their control, all while the managament keeps radio silence, not even defending them, but instead allowing Italian media to constantly shit on them.

This week Juve will have Roma (we could even argue that this season the calendar was tailor made to help some teams, and fuck some others), and will have to play without Locatelli, after having played a >120minutes exhausting pointless game where the result was decided by everything but the sport, coming from a serie of lost games influenced mostly by external factors.

How do you still find joy in watching the games, knowing full well that there's a high chance that they will be ruined by what each year looks more and more like "political" external decisions?

To me, the disgust is starting to take over the only entertainment there was left.

by ThePostMelone

20 Comments

  1. Unless our management starts speaking up these injustices will keep happening to us. We’ve become favorites for Uefa to screw over because it gives them the drama they need and we wont say anything. Any other English Spanish team or PSG would have a rawkus over smallest of calls , today’s incident would be unacceptable. Reminded me of that bogus PK for Lyon and Porto 2nd legs.

    Always feels like these last 2nd legs everything goes against us, not 1 year we catch a break. Even CR7 luck didnt work when he played for us he was getting short end of stick too.

  2. I made a similar post earlier.

    Honestly, a part of me hopes that the reason they’re doing it this way is because when they did it any other way in the past, they got called cheaters in one way or another. Even after winning 9 in a row.

    I hope they don’t argue and are silent so that when we win, no one will be able to say it was because we cheated.

  3. pinkpantherskin on

    Bro look listen after this game as a gala fan i and i can say nearly all gala fans we all have huge huge respect for you. You showed what a legendary team juventus was and is.When i saw the stadium before the game i said to myself oh this night will be a loong loong one.

    But now about your comments at least this : if you think that second yellow was a mistake you might need a new prescription.Please dont make yourselves a joke.

  4. I understand what you’re going through but I’ve come to accept that as Juve, every one will always be against us.

    It is in our DNA to rise above everything. That is why our motto is Fino Alla Fine and the only thing that matters is winning. Because the taste of victory is so delicious and soon we will feast because we always find a way!

    Forza Juve ALWAYS!

  5. To our fellow Galatasaray brigaders, coming here and downvoting everything you don’t like, exactly like last week:

    Don’t you have anything better to do?

  6. createdfounder on

    Just this sentence is enough for me to realize that maybe I am watching something that is far more scripted then I could’ve imagined: “The team has no political weight”. Why the fff would a team need political weight in sports, if it is not connected to people making as much money as possible?

  7. Apprehensive-Fix-567 on

    I agree, but I cannot emphasise this enough: Fuck Galatasaray. From the first minute of the first leg they were rolling on the floor trying to get yellow cards for every single challenge.

    They should have had multiple players sent off last night for a combinational of fouls and simulation. Sallai should have had direct red card for foul on Yildiz, Torreira should have had like 4 yellows, Yilmaz crying like a pussy every challenge, Osimhen should have easily gotten a second yellow before his goal, Mario Lemina is a bitch.

    We can’t only blame referees when the entire team’s game plan is to try and trick them.

  8. Until something is done for wasting time, diving, and stuff like that, this behavior will persist.

    I would introduce a 2-3 min “penalty”:
    if a player start wasting time faking injuries, rolling on the pitch, send him 2-3 minutes out, if the injury is real the medics can do their job, if its fake u play 2-3 min one man down