Simon Jordan and Jim White reactĀ to Liverpool contacting PGMOL to raise concerns over Virgil van Dijk’s disallowed goal in the 3-0 defeat at Man City.
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Well arsenal, and arteta did it when they lost against Newcastle, away last season and other clubs have done it in the past aswell .so I couldn't care less what simon Jordan has got to say because he is just a hypocrite and a complete and utter š end.
I don't see what all the mither is about TBH – firstly, why are people having a go at the VAR ref, Michael Oliver? He 100% cannot get involved unless there's been a "clear & obvious error". And the onfield decision to flag Robertson offside was clearly a subjective one, not even close to being a clear & obvious error.
Secondly, under Law 11, Offsides, as it's currently written, the onfield call of offside was correct in any case IMO. Intentionally ducking under a ball that's below head height is effectively dummying the ball….so it's definitely an "obvious action", as stated in Law 11. And the keeper is stood right behind the offending player, like, 2 feet away! So of course Robertson is going to be deemed to have affected the keeper by his obvious action….in fact dummying the ball is a very common footballing trick to affect opposition players anywhere on the pitch, and especially if the 2 players are in close proximity.
It's a correct offside call all day long. Doesn't matter whether the keeper would have saved the header if Robertson hadn't 've been there. Doesn't matter which way the keeper was going, or which foot his weight was on. Doesn't matter about the keeper's "line of vision" being impeded, because that's a different subsection of Law 11, and is not the reason why the goal was disallowed (in fact, Robertson was almost certainly NOT in the goalie's line of vision here). Even Liverpool FC themselves are banging on about line of vision in their complaint; it's actually funny that no-one appears to understand the current offside law other than the officials.
If you're arguing for this goal to stand, then what you're effectively arguing for is a change, or further clarification (e.g. maybe with example situations, that are stated in attached Directives to Law 11), of the existing offside law as it stands…because, using the existing Laws, you have no argument (other than fan bias, which is no argument at all)
Rubbish there is no hypocrisy lol It was blatantly unjust decisions as anybody with a naked eye can see it shouldāve been a goal. Point is it was blatantly obvious and deeply worrying that VAR referee canāt see what the whole world can see.
How can they get this wrong with so many clear camera angles??
Two things can be true. That decision was ridiculous and it didn't affect the result because city was way better. However, simon holds everyone else accountable apart from referees and this is a major reason why the refs are mediocre. I'm not a liverpool fan but I believe more clubs should raise complaints for decisions like this, they are far too much in the epl which ruins the game.
If that goal stood, no way City would complain. Slot would defo not complain if it was given as a coal against Liverpool – Simon says otherwise, surprise!
If we all heard the explanation of Webb, it is hilarious how he defended the decision as comparing with previous year example. Soon he will even use blinking eyes to opponent can be a reason for offside ššš VAR is not the issue, it just a video technology for Christ sake. If ref canāt make correct judgement by checking the screen, donāt blame the TV!!! Something else is horribly wrong there!! š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
Pgmol openly corrupt
Who is Caichedo?
Simon Jordan's Comments Are Utterly Detached from Reality!
To call Liverpool's pursuit of accountability "rank hypocrisy" is itself rank hypocrisy when the entire football worldāsupported by video evidence and logicāagrees the goal was legitimate!
This was not a marginal, 50/50 judgment call. This was a clear, demonstrable error where a player ducking out of the way was somehow construed as "interfering." Jordan's argument that the PGMOL should simply "smack them in the mouth and say 'Look, people make mistakes'" is a pathetic defense of gross incompetence.
The PGMOL isn't just defending a "mistake"; they are doubling down to defend an embarrassing outcome that the video clearly refutes. They are choosing to sacrifice fairness and accuracy on the altar of preserving their own ego. Jordan isn't railing against "modern culture"; he's excusing a fundamentally broken system where clubs are forced to appeal because the officials refuse to admit when they are plainly, demonstrably wrong.
It's time for real accountability, not just TV pundits making excuses for ineptitude. The goal was valid. Period.
Slot has made me hate Liverpool man is a embarrassment !!
As was made obvious a fortnight ago at the UCL match at anfield a significant proportion of Liverpool fans revealed themselves to be patently immature regarding TAA. Now we see that Arne Slot the current English Premier league championship winning coach should according to this same cohort of dense LFC supporters be sacked from his job, take a moment to digest these facts and think on wether John Henry & the FSG are going to seriously consider any future concerns these people may have about the club however legitimate?
Your emphatic argument hinges on a hypothetical premise that presumes Slot would challenge a fictional decision given the opposite way around. It's nulled, therefore.
Slot is a hypocrite because of what he WOULDāVE said? How do people tune into this garbage?
If Simon Jordan was losing millions by VAR and referee calls he would be the first one whinging….. what a hypocrite!!
Robertson is offside to Donnarumma's left. The ball goes to Donnarumma's left but directly at Robertson who is offside but also blocking the path of the ball to goal. He makes a sudden movement (ducking, but at that point the keeper wouldn't know if he was ducking or moving to redirect the ball (Richarlison's goal vs Utd). It is subjective but the correct decision. The letter of the law isn't necessarily common sense. Zirkzee accidentally touching Garnacho's shot that was definitely going in. Harry Macguire reaching for a ball he would never get but deemed to be impacting the play. I'd be pissed if it was United, but the call was correct.
Ticks all the boxes of NOT interfering with play while being offside, as we've seen explained by pgmol in all other goals that are given in this situation. Except this one wasn't given. No wonder Liverpool asked for an explanation. Its all so confusing!!!!
Talksport covering for Man City again surprise surprise good luck arsenal youāll need it the corruption runs deep šš
Keep an eye out arsenal fans PGMOL will target you lot now to make sure 115 wins another title š Iāll come back to this comment soon.
But Simon the laws werenāt followed?ā¦.. the laws of the game werenāt followed the process wasnāt followed š¤¦āāļø typical agenda to defend city arsenal fans trust me there coming for you lot next š you just watch.
Mmm replay what Ange was saying! Goal line technology only is all that is required to assist out referees
This is the sad way football is going. Players falling over blades of grass and whinging constantly. Now managers are getting just as bad. All think they are entitled. 5:12 Jim white is spot on.
Challenges we have with certain communities. Which communities Mr Jordan?
WORST FANS EVER šš
Not surprised with this type of Clown pundits š¤£š¤”
Simon is not a billionaire. He has not run a top flight football team. His opinion means nothing.
Liverpool supporter, disappointed and don't agree with the decision to disallow. However, what positive outcome is making an official complaint achieving? I'd suggest none whatsoever! As much as I believe the wrong decision was made, there are times when taking the good along with the bad assists far more than whining about it. Our problems significantly outweigh any complaint to the PGMOL at the present.
Its the VAR and the consistency issues. People who have played/watched football their entire lives do not know how the rules are applied from weekend to weekend. Fans have eyes, and can see what VAR are looking at.
He seen Robertson was clearly offside and ducking in front of the ball is deceiving the keepers ability to know if he will interfer with play or not. Its offside otherwise going forward a small player could just directly stand right in front of the keeper all game in a offside position and say sure look it's grand he can see the ball. š
Well a claim would be upheldā¦Liverpool officials arenāt stupid as this was such a massive error
No sorry Simon you are wrong slot wouldnāt have moaned as heās not blind and stupidā¦
Howās Simon saying he wants more accountability then complains when clubs are trying to keep the refs accountable? No one is saying Refs canāt make mistakes, the issue is the inconsistency with the refereeing. The same incident can happened in two different game and the referee will give two different decisions.
They fecked us ruling out the Diaz goal v Spurs and now they do it again
VAR checks a lot of things doesnt mean they get it right. There examples of this situation being offside and other time's its ok.
I'm a Chelsea fan and it was a clear goal. The referee's in England have been corrupt since Alex Ferguson had them in his pocket. Disgraceful š¤¬
Simon always manages to sneak a political moan in there.
Simon miles off it on this one.
He is victim blaming here š. Also 2 things can be correct at the same time Simon. PGMOL could and should have come out to say they got it wrong , but they doubled down and tried to baffle us with bullshit. Yet again, they are pissing on our legs and telling us itās raining ?! And because there is too much tribalism in football other fans arenāt supporting this nonsense and next week we move on to another game with another issue for another club and it all starts agin
Just give us – GOAL LINE TECHNOLOGY, AUTOMATED OFFSIDES. – Thank youā¦
Believe it or not, a club isnāt purely run by a manager or captain. Wouldnāt make for as much talking points for you though I suppose
This is so sad by liverpool to be honest city battered them all game
We all hate Liverpool.
Its funny how they forget about all the horrendous decisions that have gone in their favour over the last few years and only focus on the ones that went against them. While over at United a marginal corner call goes their way and the whole bloody country is up in arms. Liverpool FC – Always the victim, never to blame.