The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Joe House for the latest ‘Redraftables’ to revisit the 2004 NBA draft, which included Dwight Howard, Andre Iguodala, Luol Deng, J.R. Smith, and others. The two also discuss how Emeka Okafor’s, Al Jefferson’s, and Shaun Livingston’s careers all could have gone dramatically differently if not for injuries.

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39 Comments

  1. Bill always has these narratives and bias’ that make zero sense. Says he’s passing on Josh Smith cause “he never won shit” then picks Al Jefferson and goes on to lament on how he never won a playoff series ?????

  2. Imagine if Cavs were that little bit worse and drafted Igoudala. You have a poor mans Pippen as sidekick from year 2. Whole league would have been different.

  3. That whole thing about Yao is just dumb. Look we know you went out on a limb and said he would be shite and he wasn’t so now you are reduced to trying to say he was boring 🤦‍♀️ let it go already

  4. Joe saying Iguodala's FMVP was good for the league automatically disqualify him from voting on any NBA award, ever. The media patting itself on the back despite historians of the sport (which Bill used to be) ranking that as the second worst FMVP selection (behind Unseld) shows that they shouldn't get to decide the legacy of players anymore.

  5. Im a bulls fan and I remember when watching Josh Smith, all im thinking was "please start shooting 3s, please start shooting 3s". He was so good with everything else but he kept going back to that 3

  6. Yao Ming was super player. He came from communist China whose country forced him to play for the Chinese National Team, and to go back to do his military duties. His body was destroyed by YM having to live up to China. Disappointed in your shallow analysis here. So, YM didn’t excite you? YM, I’m the years that he played, was a better player than all of your top choices.

  7. Come on, Bill. You made a case for Horry in the Book of Basketball that made sense. He won pretty much everywhere he went and you could make a compilation out of his clutch moments alone. If Iguodala didn't win Finals MVP in 2014-2015, which probably should have gone to Stephen Curry, this wouldn't even be a conversation.

  8. Dwight's Orlando Magic was extremely exciting. He postirized so many guys while having fun.

    Not to mention Turk and Nelson were throwing crazy lobs to Dwight. If Iggy's an Hall of Famer, then Dwight is no doubt Hall of Famer as Well!!!

  9. We ABSOLUTELY knew about Okafor’s back issues before the draft. Guess who else was having back issues during the ‘04 season? A disgruntled Tracy McGrady. It’s no wonder Orlando passed on Emeka.

  10. I like how these analyses switch. I mean, you could make an argument that you could coach up Josh Smith to be more efficient. And, to you Bill’s own words, in a different universe, he could have been a dynamic player… just a thought

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