The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Joe House for the latest ‘Redraftables’ to revisit the 2004 NBA draft, which included Dwight Howard, Andre Iguodala, Luol Deng, J.R. Smith, and others. The two also discuss how Emeka Okafor’s, Al Jefferson’s, and Shaun Livingston’s careers all could have gone dramatically differently if not for injuries.
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39 Comments
Redraft ALL the NBA drafts
Iggy is overrated not a HOF. Got lucky he was on a stacked GSW team. Any defensive wing could've filled that role.
Sheesh….Josh Smith over J.R. Smith…wow…
Bill always has these narratives and bias’ that make zero sense. Says he’s passing on Josh Smith cause “he never won shit” then picks Al Jefferson and goes on to lament on how he never won a playoff series ?????
How does someone as big and athletic as Josh Smith shoot 42% from the field
Iguodala is not a hall of famer
HORRY IS NOT A HOF
Bruce Bowen was the OG 3nD guy
Imagine if Cavs were that little bit worse and drafted Igoudala. You have a poor mans Pippen as sidekick from year 2. Whole league would have been different.
Is Anthony Davies better than damian lilliard?
So Josh Smith is not a winning player but Martin and Big Al are?
With Josh Smith it's tough to get rebounds after going for block shots.
Iggy is a hof he had 15 solid years as a guy any team would want as a 3rd option
I love Iggy. He’s not a HOFer, not even close.
That whole thing about Yao is just dumb. Look we know you went out on a limb and said he would be shite and he wasn’t so now you are reduced to trying to say he was boring 🤦♀️ let it go already
Josh Smith had phisically one of the best basketball body/ athletic tools… But his head, ahh god such a wasted potential
Josh smith was so trash how is he 5
Livingston was kinda like Lonzo
Anderson Varela over Jr?
Joe saying Iguodala's FMVP was good for the league automatically disqualify him from voting on any NBA award, ever. The media patting itself on the back despite historians of the sport (which Bill used to be) ranking that as the second worst FMVP selection (behind Unseld) shows that they shouldn't get to decide the legacy of players anymore.
Im a bulls fan and I remember when watching Josh Smith, all im thinking was "please start shooting 3s, please start shooting 3s". He was so good with everything else but he kept going back to that 3
tf is a top banana?
Where is Rafael Araujo
Yao Ming was super player. He came from communist China whose country forced him to play for the Chinese National Team, and to go back to do his military duties. His body was destroyed by YM having to live up to China. Disappointed in your shallow analysis here. So, YM didn’t excite you? YM, I’m the years that he played, was a better player than all of your top choices.
Can't believe they didn't pick Shaun Livingston.
Love the Coop shoutout!
Iguodala should absolutely not be a hofer. Their reasoning is absolutely ridiculous. He belongs in the hall of really good
Come on, Bill. You made a case for Horry in the Book of Basketball that made sense. He won pretty much everywhere he went and you could make a compilation out of his clutch moments alone. If Iguodala didn't win Finals MVP in 2014-2015, which probably should have gone to Stephen Curry, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
Bill “The Cuck Guy” Simmons
If Rose didn't get injured, Deng would have been remembered differently. Very underrated player.
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Dwight's Orlando Magic was extremely exciting. He postirized so many guys while having fun.
Not to mention Turk and Nelson were throwing crazy lobs to Dwight. If Iggy's an Hall of Famer, then Dwight is no doubt Hall of Famer as Well!!!
Is iggy hof? Who else you gonna take martians got the death beam pointed at earth.
Bill "if you do his career twenty times" Simmons
We ABSOLUTELY knew about Okafor’s back issues before the draft. Guess who else was having back issues during the ‘04 season? A disgruntled Tracy McGrady. It’s no wonder Orlando passed on Emeka.
Wth is this Dwight Howard slander
I like how these analyses switch. I mean, you could make an argument that you could coach up Josh Smith to be more efficient. And, to you Bill’s own words, in a different universe, he could have been a dynamic player… just a thought
Jr Smith disrespect is wild
Yao not as fun as Gilbert? 😂